Sell Out

[sixxswine]

Cooper does a track with Xzibit on his NU-Record?!
It's sad when old fucks try to be valid to what's happening now...
He's joined the ranks of Generation Swine era Crue, W.A.S.P. KFD era,
St. Anger era Metallica...

 

[Hawk]

Maybe he's hoping Xzibit will pimp his ride?

I agree though, bad move!

 

[JonnyD]

Do I think that fucking rap song sucks? yeah and do I think DD is kinda terrible? yeah but its not by anymeans that hes joined the ranks of Generation Swine era Crue, W.A.S.P. KFD era, St. Anger era Metallica furthermore Alice has always gone with the times to an extent ... but other than that rap song the album is more like 70's cooper mixed with deep purple so I must totally disagree with you

 

[No-Mercy]

heh, i never liked cooper anyway.

 

[Wyvern]

My 2 cents on the issue.

The song I suppose is the last of "Dirty Diamonds" and the song is a uke: . Like it or not the rapping has been present more than once in metal:

• Anthrax - 'I Am The Man'
• Bruce Dickinson - 'Sacred Cowboys'
• Deep Purple - 'Sun Goes Down'
• Alice Cooper - 'Stand'

Now how much into RAP the song goes depends on who it's written/performed with and the evaluation of the listener. Personally I can digest BD or DP but never Anthrax or the Coop.

Unlike the ither performers Alice has always try different approaches to music, form the early psychodelia of "Easy Action" to the glam metal of "Thrash", from country in 'Desperado' to industrial in 'Wicked Young Man'.

Again the perception of the listener is what it counts, I have followed AC for many years, still I'm not interested in his pre 1971 or his 1980-1986 period. And even from the years I do like I skip many songs for being unbereable.

'Stand' may be an experiment for Alice as an artist or as a merchant, in anycase it sucks and I'm very glad is the last of the album so I can dismiss it with a sleight of hand, after all the rest of the album is great vintage Coop and I value it for that reason.

 

[JonnyD]

heh, i never liked cooper anyway.

You Dont know what you are missing son!!! Pick up a copy of Killers!

 

[Greeno]

I've always thought of Cooper as being the metal David Bowie.... they try to do what ever is popular at the moment. I do like some of Cooper's releases even though he is hit or miss with me. As for Bowie... he's the biggest rip-off artist in music ever... just my 2 cents.

 

[No-Mercy]

You Dont know what you are missing son!!! Pick up a copy of Killers!

maybe i will....from the songs ive heard it just wasnt my stuff. ill check it out, although i have many other albums i want much more

 

[sixxswine]

Maybe he's hoping Xzibit will pimp his ride?

I agree though, bad move!

A horrible move. It's not gonna revive his career like Rick Rubin did with Aerosmith by teaming them with Run DMC. I thought Alice Cooper was too classy to whore his ass like that? Then agin this is the same dude that did the commercial for Staples, where he's shopping for school supplies...

 

[sixxswine]

You Dont know what you are missing son!!! Pick up a copy of Killers!

Classic Alice Cooper rules, the band that is...

 

[JonnyD]

Classic Alice Cooper rules, the band that is...

Old Cooper band had shit moments too I am and always will be a Alice Cooper fan sure He has some shitty stuff but then again he has some great stuff ... and I personally think Last Temptation is a underated classic! but he is hit and miss and his ballads make me sick but he is one of my all time favorites

 

[JonnyD]

maybe i will....from the songs ive heard it just wasnt my stuff. ill check it out, although i have many other albums i want much more

Open your mind and your ears, Alice has had as much of an impact on the bands you love now including maiden as Sabbath, Kiss, or Priest ... does he have some shit albums? YES but he has some goddamn classic stuff too!

 

[zeppelin]

I like all of his later albums, I really hope this one doesn't suck, I can't imagine him doing another rap song. Imo he always stayed kind of true to his way of metal. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Wyvern]

and I personally think Last Temptation is a underated classic!

It is. Clever lyrics, great melodies, clean composition, catchy melodies, and the comic that goes along the CD it's a great piece too.

 

[Platinum Maze]

I'm not a fan of Cooper either, but I had to laugh today when I was at the mall and heard a dance/disco/techno version of Cooper's "Poison" being pumped through the speakers at Foot Locker. Talk about sell out...

 

[sixxswine]

I'm not a fan of Cooper either, but I had to laugh today when I was at the mall and heard a dance/disco/techno version of Cooper's "Poison" being pumped through the speakers at Foot Locker. Talk about sell out...

A sad day in rock n roll...

 

[ZoMb!M@N]

Rap is not music. It's ignorance set to an electronic drum beat.

...my two cents

 

[Wyvern]

I'm not a fan of Cooper either, but I had to laugh today when I was at the mall and heard a dance/disco/techno version of Cooper's "Poison" being pumped through the speakers at Foot Locker. Talk about sell out...

And you're going to blame Alice for that?

I have heard techno versions of Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd. In this day and age any non-talented idiot with a electronic gadget makes dance versions of great music for mass consumption purposes.

Let's not blame the artist but the ripper.

 

[Bryant]

Do I think that fucking rap song sucks? yeah and do I think DD is kinda terrible? yeah but its not by anymeans that hes joined the ranks of Generation Swine era Crue, W.A.S.P. KFD era, St. Anger era Metallica furthermore Alice has always gone with the times to an extent ... but other than that rap song the album is more like 70's cooper mixed with deep purple so I must totally disagree with you

That is a great reply. If an artist does a one-off song with rap in it, I have no problem with it as long as the rest of the album is good. Maybe Cooper was experimenting or maybe he was trying to cash in on one song. No sin in either of those. Had Metallica released "Enter Sandman" with some Master of Puppets style music on the rest of the album, few would bitch.


Bryant

 

[Fangface]

Do I think that fucking rap song sucks? yeah and do I think DD is kinda terrible? yeah but its not by anymeans that hes joined the ranks of Generation Swine era Crue, W.A.S.P. KFD era, St. Anger era Metallica furthermore Alice has always gone with the times to an extent ... but other than that rap song the album is more like 70's cooper mixed with deep purple so I must totally disagree with you

Agreed, it's only one song. What I've heard so far in "Dirty Diamonds" is different from his last few records, it's classic/retro 70's Cooper..... which is a good thing in my book