Short question about the Peavey Vypyr 15 (other recommendations also appreciated)

[slashvanyoung]

Howdy,

so I'm thinking about getting that little Vypyr to have a practise amp around. I saw that these come with a headphone/recording out, so I'm wondering if there is any kind of speaker simulation going on with that? The manual ain't particularly clear on that.

It would be interesting to run this thing through the power section of one of my tube amps, to see how it stacks up to "the real deal" (or in comparison to Revalver).

I'm not getting my hopes up though, since I've already read that the 30 watts model does have a speaker simulation that you can't turn off (apparently) and I think that these amps are pretty much identical (safe the output of course).

So, can anyone give me a definite answer concerning the 15 watt model?

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Other recommendations for a little practise amp are also welcome!

Thanks.

 

[P-E]

Maybe it doesn't : most small (15W) practice amps with headphone outs are dreadful to listen to with headphones because there's actually no cab simulation, just the fizz.

Best thing would be to try out or ask someone who owns one.

(Not really helpful, I know. Good luck!)

 

[Zack Uidl]

Yes it does have a cab sim on the headphone out. i just checked on the one i use in my teaching studio

 

[slashvanyoung]

Ok, thanks for the answers guys!

Zack, what do you think of the little thing as a tool for practising?

 

[Rex Rocker]

Just to confirm, yes, there is a cab simulation on the headphone out on those. I have the 30-watt version, but I think the software it's the same for all the vypyrs, actually. BTW, that cab simulation cannot be turned off, AFAIK.



BTW, the modeling on this doesn't really work like ReValver. I originally thought it ran on ReValver softwere, but yeah... no, definitely not.

Supposedly, what they do with this thing is, the effects are digital, same as the tone-stacks and whatnot, but the 'engine' I think that makes the distortion happen is the Peavey Transtube thing, which is analog... so that's why there's a lot of people complaining that 'all the models sound the same'.

I don't think they all 'sound the same', but yeah... they do share very similar characteristics.

 

[stargazer7]

Ok, thanks for the answers guys!

Zack, what do you think of the little thing as a tool for practising?

Its great for practicing (and even loud enough for light rehearsing with a band in a small room) - Whats great is that you can plug in your media player and run over parts with musicians/band-members and whatever. You can run it at talking volume, which is ideal for 1 on 1 practicing sessions. So its fantastic for teachers and students.

It sounds great for what it does and what it costs, and is well worth the $100 it costs.

Im so impressed with it, Im looking to get the 60w tube version and pedal for small gigs and situations where Im not "hell-bent" on killing every one with my tube Marshall & Peavey heads. I'll save those guys for the big gigs/rooms. The Vypyr series is so versatile that it can cover all the ground you'd need as a local working guitarist.

 

[slashvanyoung]

Just to confirm, yes, there is a cab simulation on the headphone out on those. I have the 30-watt version, but I think the software it's the same for all the vypyrs, actually. BTW, that cab simulation cannot be turned off, AFAIK.

That's what I thought. Somebody posted a vid on here some time ago, showing that you can even access the effects on the 15 watts version, which it's not supposed to have.

Well, the cab sim probably makes sense if you take the vast majority of the customers of these amps into account. Would have been nice if it was disengage-able...

BTW, the modeling on this doesn't really work like ReValver. I originally thought it ran on ReValver softwere, but yeah... no, definitely not.

Supposedly, what they do with this thing is, the effects are digital, same as the tone-stacks and whatnot, but the 'engine' I think that makes the distortion happen is the Peavey Transtube thing, which is analog... so that's why there's a lot of people complaining that 'all the models sound the same'.

I don't think they all 'sound the same', but yeah... they do share very similar characteristics.

Oh, that's a slight bummer. I though all of the preamp signal modulation would be digital, allowing for very different voiced models.

Its great for practicing (and even loud enough for light rehearsing with a band in a small room) - Whats great is that you can plug in your media player and run over parts with musicians/band-members and whatever. You can run it at talking volume, which is ideal for 1 on 1 practicing sessions. So its fantastic for teachers and students.

It sounds great for what it does and what it costs, and is well worth the $100 it costs.

Im so impressed with it, Im looking to get the 60w tube version and pedal for small gigs and situations where Im not "hell-bent" on killing every one with my tube Marshall & Peavey heads. I'll save those guys for the big gigs/rooms. The Vypyr series is so versatile that it can cover all the ground you'd need as a local working guitarist.

Yeah, I have been taking on some students again and I need something portable. The Vypyr just seems like the most versatile/best sounding thing out now for that purpose.

A Roland Cube would be the only feasible alternative I can think of now.

 

[Metaltastic]

Fucking love my Roland Cube 30, it hasn't let me down once and it can keep up with a full band practice! (though just barely, and with a bassist it might not be as easy...anyway, it's 30 watts and weighs just under 20 pounds ffs )

 

[Rex Rocker]

Oh, that's a slight bummer. I though all of the preamp signal modulation would be digital, allowing for very different voiced models.

Yeah, well... that's the big downside of the Vypyr's modeling. Good thing about that is it sounds MUCH less digital, lol. When I bought mine, I was comparing it to a Line 6 Spider IV, the 30-watt model. I liked the Vypyr better. It sounded more natural to me.

Another downside is most of the high-gain models are super bright, and not all of them have an EQ section 'powerful' enough to dial that harshness out, so not all of the models are useable, really... but then again, I tend to like darker tones myself, so, I don't know if that would be a problem for everyone... Another one is that mid-gain tones aren't as great either. I don't know if it's because my guitar has EMG's, but this thing doesn't really clean up too good if you pick softly and do small changes with the volume knob. Not very dynamic.

I still think it's one of the best choices in the price range. Clean tones are great and high-gain ones can get pretty damn useable if you know how to tweak them. I'm like 90% positive mine would keep up in a band situation too.

I actually did a small youtube vid when I got it demoing a high-gain tone, but it came out super bassy and my playing was sloppy as hell, lol:

 

[Norris-wf]

That amp does actually sound pretty damn good. Nice playing too man

 

[Rex Rocker]

Well, thanks.