Sinister's guitar sound on their last two albums?

[ProphetofHatred]

I'm absolutely obsessed with the guitar sound on their last two albums. I'm wondering what Marshall amplifier is being used in this video around 3:00, my guess is a DSL100 but I'm not quite sure. Help me out dudes.

 

[cfh11]

tough to tell from that video, but it looks like a jcm900 to me

 

[ProphetofHatred]

Anyone know the sound of both heads?

 

[cfh11]

dsl100 slays the jcm900 imo. i dont like the 900 much except for the sl-x model, too muddy and overgained in a bad way. the dsl100 is probably the best value (outside of the 8100 anyways, which can be found for $200 or less) there is for a marshall head. dsl100 or jcm2000 (which is the older version of the dsl100) ftw.

 

[~BURNY~]

Could be an sl-x

or a Master Volume MKIII which is very good too but hard to find.

 

[ProphetofHatred]

Do you know if these heads can actually sound like that? So what are the major sound differences between a DSL100H and JCM900 SL-X? It's pretty obvious the heads are either being boosted or perhaps modded, there's no way a Marshall head can sound that tight on it's own.

 

[cfh11]

marshalls can definitely sound tight without a boost... this is one of the tightest tones i have ever heard and i am pretty sure it is an unboosted jcm2000 or dsl100:

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any amp can sound tight.. a lot of it comes down to playing technique

 

[ProphetofHatred]

I don't think that album has a tight guitar sound.

 

[Nolly]

The Marshall looks like a 900. It also looks like there are at least a couple more heads behind the guy, either a recto or a Peavey Triple-X, then a 5150 or some sort. I wouldn't say the tone makes me think of a Marshall but anything is possible I suppose.

 

[MartijnPaauwe]

I've recorded there once with my band a long long time ago. I remember that the amps he had then were a Marshall JCM Slash and a Mesa Dual Recto. Cabinet was a Mesa Boogie 4x12 (not sure which type) but anything could be used I guess

 

[cfh11]

I don't think that album has a tight guitar sound.

:zombie:then i am afraid we have a very different definition of "tight"

 

[ProphetofHatred]

I've recorded there once with my band a long long time ago. I remember that the amps he had then were a Marshall JCM Slash and a Mesa Dual Recto. Cabinet was a Mesa Boogie 4x12 (not sure which type) but anything could be used I guess

So does it sound more like a Dual Recto or Marshall?

 

[bryan_kilco]

:zombie:then i am afraid we have a very different definition of "tight"

Was gonna say the same thing!! Super tight guitars on that album!!

But I thought I heard that it was the Mesa Triaxis?!

 

[cfh11]

Was gonna say the same thing!! Super tight guitars on that album!!

But I thought I heard that it was the Mesa Triaxis?!

very well could be... i just know joe from psycroptic is a huge fan of the jcm2000/dsl100 so i assumed that was what was used. his live tone and the tone on the other albums has been very consistent over the years.

 

[Fragle]

Somehow i also thought Joe's mainly a Triaxis user? I think i never read Marshall and Joe/Psycroptic in the same sentence tbh..../thread hijack

 

[cfh11]

ill be damned he does record with a triaxis. starts talking about gear from the last album around 3:00



he is using marshall heads in alot of the live videos on youtube though. i have also seen him with engl and dual recs. maybe the triaxis is just for the studio?

 

[Fragle]

I guess he's running the Triaxis rack through the FX return of whatever amp there is available. No need to carry around a 30kg+ rack with a tube poweramp, especially when going by plane.
Btw, those dudes are killer players, and Joe has a great guitar tone. He also seems to be a good mixing engineer, especially their last album sounded pretty killer to me.

 

[cfh11]

i suddenly want the triaxis... it has that marshall-esque breakup in the low end that i love. too bad it is $2K and i already have a kemper

also, sorry OP. total thread hijack