Snare Verbs?

[Glenn Fricker]

Hey guys, I could use a little help with this one.....


I'm doing a deathmetal mix right now.... As I'm sure most of you know, I've got a thing for retro-metal & can handle that stuff just fine.
Anyway, I'm curious if any of you can point me in the direction of some of your favourite snare verbs for the fast, blast-beat kinda stuff.


Thanks,
-0z-

 

[-Gavin-]

Perfect space sonar convolution with the long plate impulse...


But i do love audio damage's Reverence too!



Oh, and check your PM for a new message!

 

[JeffTD]

I still dig ArtsAcoustic for my snare verbs - for more blast-oriented stuff, I lower the send from the snare, though.

I hope Dave Otero chimes in, though - he gets some of my favorite drumsounds for super technical stuff.

 

[ApolloSpeed]

do you send the snare to a bus for the snare alone? or Snare and toms? Or separate busses?

 

[Mutant]

Perfect space

Is this some licensed version of Voxengo Pristine Space ?

long plate impulse

Is the impulse public domain or copyrighted ? Can you post it ?

 

[Tym_ex]

Most of the time I don't like convolution verbs on drums. Lately I've been using Wizooverb a lot on drums, I like it quite a bit!

For deathmetal I like a verb that's not too long and has a predelay that creates this soft slap back effect. Like on the last Decapitated, works very well in the mix imho.

 

[joeymusicguy]

i use UAD's plate 140 on the dsp card, with a compressor with fast attack to stop the snare from jumping out

i do this on an fx bus and send every drum track to it, at different send levels

gets you that room sound without the cpu hassle

 

[joeymusicguy]

i use UAD's plate 140 on the dsp card, with a compressor with fast attack to stop the snare from jumping out

i do this on an fx bus and send every drum track to it, at different send levels

gets you that room sound without the cpu hassle

oh and to back this up, listen to http://www.myspace.com/fromtheshallows

WAVES RVERB on that, if you have the cpu to do it

 

[Jaymz]

Ive only recently found the right verb for my snare. Perfect Space which Gav enlightend me by So much more even than the Rverb's that I was using previously. PS for teh win!

 

[greyskull]

dverb dverb and dverb

 

[-Gavin-]

Is this some licensed version of Voxengo Pristine Space ?



Is the impulse public domain or copyrighted ? Can you post it ?

Yeah, Sonar has Pristine space included but it's a single channel version instead of the 8 that the Voxengo one has.

With regqards to the impulses, it comes with sonar so i doubt that it's fiar game to post...

 

[Ermz]

I've found Freeverb 2 to be excellent for all metal drums. You just EQ it accordingly with your favourite plug-in on the FX track and it's all good. Very simple parameters... cuts like a hot knife through the proverbial.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

do you send the snare to a bus for the snare alone? or Snare and toms? Or separate busses?

I send the snare and toms to the same verb buss. But that could be wrong feel free to throw that info out the window.

 

[Aaron Smith]

dverb dverb and dverb

Yep. The room reverb with like 1.5 on the decay, and I generally roll off everything above 11k or so. It sits really nice in a metal mix.

I send the snare and toms to the same verb buss.

Yep. Works well for me, and I can't think of any reason to have more than one reverb running on one drumset.

 

[joeymusicguy]

am i the only dude that runs kick to the verb?

 

[AudioPhile777]

am i the only dude that runs kick to the verb?

Nope. I tried it ona few different mixes... really depends on what the mix calls for... IMO

 

[CJWall]

am i the only dude that runs kick to the verb?

no way, i do it all the time... i just make sure i'm highpassing some of the lows out of my drum verb send..

 

[Aaron Smith]

am i the only dude that runs kick to the verb?

I'll do it in places where appropriate, and roll off a lot of the attack of the kick, but I always automate back to a dry clickier kick when the music gets heavy again.

 

[ReliXKeepeR]

There are some nice metal and rock mixes with a lot verb on the kick. First band that comes in my mind is Iron Savior.

 

[Ermz]

I'm trying to come off using verb on drums altogether. A lot of the guys doing popular rock music are favoring using the room to add all the space. I'd love to hit mixing with that approach because it's so different to anything I've tried so far.

Not sure how successful that would be in modern metal music.. but hell it's worth a shot. I mean my fave metal drum mix would have to be Nightrage's 'Sweet Vengeance'. The drums don't actually sound like the drummer is playing a xylophone!