Sneaptastic!

i hear burning angel, dead eyes see no future, bury me an angel, the immortal, savage messiah, we will rise, and them some other old AE track. But no carcass.


Edit: sorry not savage messiah, heart of darkness.
 
cobhc said:
i hear burning angel, dead eyes see no future, bury me an angel, the immortal, savage messiah, we will rise, and them some other old AE track. But no carcass.


Edit: sorry not savage messiah, heart of darkness.
very sorry
im not really that big a fan of arch enemy
i got mixed up between bury me an angel and incarnated solvent abuse
theyre very similar:erk:
 
I realise I'll probably be burned at the stake for saying this, but listening to that Arch Enemy clip through headphones sounded like listening to some angry Goth chick singing karaoke - the music sounds exactly like the albums (bone dry) but the vocals are drenched in reverb and to my ears they just don't blend in at all.

Either make it sound like a live band (which is good) or make it sound like studio recording (which I think is pointless), but don't try and mix the two.

Steve
 
Suicide_As_Alibi said:
I realise I'll probably be burned at the stake for saying this, but listening to that Arch Enemy clip through headphones sounded like listening to some angry Goth chick singing karaoke - the music sounds exactly like the albums (bone dry) but the vocals are drenched in reverb and to my ears they just don't blend in at all.

Either make it sound like a live band (which is good) or make it sound like studio recording (which I think is pointless), but don't try and mix the two.

Steve

*burns suicide at the stake*
 
I am a bit on Suicide's side here. The whole thing doesn't sound like a live recording at all. Even though the guys are probably great musicians (I am really not familiar with their music) but even Dream Theater sound "more live" than that recording and they are probably technically more skilled than AE while putting on a less energetic show.

Andy, care to fill us in on how much was re-recorded later on?
 
smy1 said:
...but even Dream Theater sound "more live" than that recording and they are probably technically more skilled than AE while putting on a less energetic show.
Technical skills and tight playing are two different things though.
 
gtrs were reamped and the odd edit, but its not like those guys need to overdub is it.

Lets have a listen to some of your live recordings steve, see how much of the boomy, low end, slap back from the room you can get in there with fast double kick going on lol.
 
Hey, I never suggested I could do better! I just said I don't really like it.

For me, when you listen to Pantera's live album, or Stormtroopers Of Death, it actually sounds live, whereas that Arch Enemy doesn't. If you take a bunch of triggered tracks and clean guitars, and then process them all in the studio, you basically end up with something that to my ears sounds like a singer performing to a backing track - which I don't like. If I was worried about the band sounding perfect, I wouldn't be buying their live album.

Basically, if I'd been at a gig where the band recorded, and the live album sounded like that, I'd be disappointed - because it wouldn't remind me of being there. I had the same problem with Killswitch Engage's live DVD. Will Haven's live DVD is the exact opposite; the sound isn't great, but it feels exactly like being there.

Seriously man, what you've done sounds great - it's more the way of doing it I'm not keen on. It's a personal preference thing, not a dig at your work.

Steve
 
haha I mixed a will haven album, definately no concern over sonics on the tracking on that one... phew..I liked that band tho, good to see them still going at it.

I'm intrigued to what you'd do different. I'm fine with your difference of opinion by the way, I don't take things like that personally.

It's surprising when you throw the faders up on a live recording how little sound the audience makes during songs. It kills me when I here the superbowl crowd looped under the track, a constant haaarrrrrggghhhh.