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MetalAges said:Definitely a sad story and hopefully it all ended as Terri really wanted.
MetalAges said:I remember watching shows about people under Anethesia and them feeling/hearing everything that was happenign during operations yet they could not repond or make any movements to alert Doctors. It was like a living Hell for them. I don't think we are in any position to say if or if not Terri could actually understand or comprehend what was going on on the inside. For all we know she could. That's the really scary part of it all....15 years worth.
Well we (as leymen) could of course not tell whether she was sentient or not, but I belive the neurologists (or whoever did the examinations), given all this hubbub, made a pretty damn thorough check-up. It's quite different from someone being sedated and operated on by misstake
On a side note; Jeb and George have both been ranting about "choosing life" in their public speeches, but what was obviously missing was a definition of said term. Deron, how do you, as a christian, define a human life? A heap of flesh vaguely resembling a human form with a beating heart? Brain activity? Respiration?
I do understand and support doctor assisted suicide. There are many cases where the pain and the illness becomes too unbearable that life is not worth living. I can't see why chronic pain has to be prolonged so much that it becomes torturous until the end. And it's not like these death doctors are making a killing on ending people's lives, rather most of these doctors, like Jack Kevorkian, are simple people who are compassionate enough to understand someone's dying wish.Sepsis said:I know that when my grandpa died he had had an aneurism, and would be completely dependent on others for the rest of his life (he was 68 but exceedingly healthy; the doctor lamented that they couldn't legally use his organs for donation) and my dad knew that he would've despised that, so the plug was pulled. That's kinda why I would support the plug being pulled on Terri.
On the other hand I'm opposed to assisted suicide (which this, in my opinion, very closely resembles), especially if there's a possibility of the problem being remedied, and I'm not sure what precedent Terri's death sets for this matter.
MetalAges said:This particular show wasn't about people being operated on by mistaken, just general operations. They had their anesthesiologists present etc. but there was just an "unknown" factor that all the monitoring, med school, experience could not equate for and in the end the person felt everything. Sometimes you get these flukes in life that you just can't explain whether you are a seasoned Doctor or not.
The Doctors may have been correct in that "her [insert brain part] here was crushed and that's why she is in a vegetative state..." but beyond that, maybe she WAS in there somewhere.... A lot of "what if" I know, but, well, what IF?
See, this is where you will get a lot of descension [dissension is the word I think] (correct word?) in the Christian community. This is almost in essence what will separate the fanatics from the "normal/everyday" Christian. I personally do not think it is my right to define what "life" is or stick my nose into someone elses business with my definition of how they should be thinking. There is the simple definition of "life" that would mean "a breathing person." So, if I am "pro life" and see some guy out there on the War field with two legs blown off, a hole through his chest and half is face gone but he is still breathing and can mutter to me, "Please, kill me..." am I am going to say to him, "Oh no buddy, I'm pro life! Let's pray and then I'll go get help!" . I would probably honor his request and kill him if I were out there. I would pray with him quickly before sure, very quickly! But I am realisitc about his situation, his state of "life".
spaffe said:It would be more truly christian of you to save him.
.Jinn said:I'd also like to say that the way she died was horrible.
They starved her to death.... not a way I would want to go.
old school headbanger said:I`m not a christian but I was raised catholic and now I tend to belive that life can either be good (heaven) or bad (hell). Terri Schiavo was in a living hell. She is no longer suffering. Wouldnt it be more christian to save a soul from suffering?
Jinn said:I'd also like to say that the way she died was horrible.
They starved her to death.... not a way I would want to go.