So this thread was on reddit and I just couldn't help myself.

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See?

Then when people ask me exactly why it is that I hate progsnobs, I find them the most obnoxious, arrogant and annoying group of music fans in the whole entire world, people don't understand. They ask me why. They say that "I just don't get it." They say I am jealous.

I love prog metal but I despise progsnobs, music snobs, music theory snobs. And frogs. I hate fucking frogs with passion.

This reminds me of a Dream Theater show I was waiting in line for a few years back (Train of Thought tour) in NYC. Two ladies approach me in line and ask me "What event is this line for?" Knowing they're older and have no clue about what progressive rock (let alone progressive metal) is, I decided to simplify and say "It's a concert. A Rock concert."

Then, the 19 year old idiot behind me (note that his age is a guess) interrupts and says: "Eh, no, he's wrong. It's actually progressive metal." And makes a face that not even the biggest snobs from Harvard would. I just look at the ladies and they have the "What?" look in their face, and say: "It's a rock concert." They say thank you and walk away. The guy says to me "You were wrong." My reply?

"And you're an idiot."

That thread discussion that Nailz posted to me only shows one thing: The prog(musictheory)snobs use their vast knowledge to compensate for their inability to maintain a normal social life. "Girlfriends? Friends? Who needs them when we have the Circle of Fifths and 47/9 time signatures?"
 
In all seriousness, I've never seen a piece of music actually notated by an odd-numbered beat. I mean the number on the bottom of the signature. It's always 4 or 8 (most common) sometimes 2, sometimes 1, sometimes 16, but always one of those because those are regular-division beat markers. I've never seen an actual time signature ending in 5, 7 or 9, etc. although obviously those notes can be played, they're always noted against a background defined by 4 or 8 (which is why those note groupings always have the number written above the note group).

Sorry to intrude on the thread :)
 
In all seriousness, I've never seen a piece of music actually notated by an odd-numbered beat. I mean the number on the bottom of the signature. It's always 4 or 8 (most common) sometimes 2, sometimes 1, sometimes 16, but always one of those because those are regular-division beat markers. I've never seen an actual time signature ending in 5, 7 or 9, etc. although obviously those notes can be played, they're always noted against a background defined by 4 or 8 (which is why those note groupings always have the number written above the note group).

Sorry to intrude on the thread :)

Well, if you've never seen a piece of music that's actually notated by an odd-numbered beat, then guess what? You haven't reached the peak of progressive awesomeness that only few have. In so many words, you're just not good enough. Sure, at some point if you keep on practicing and studying every single music theory book out there you may just come across it and figure it out. It's above you. Only those who are truly enlightened by the power of this sophisticated style of music can actually even count those measures.

You just don't get it.
 
Oh what the fuck? The day after I get warned about being an asshole and my dream thread comes up!? Goddamn you cruel world, goddamn you!!! I'll just echo another sentiment from here already said so that I can't get banned:

FUCKING PROGSNOBS.
 
"Honey, let's do it in 16/9 today. I am in the mood for some dissonant and atonal climax. Just like (insert progsnob wet-dream band here) did it."

:lol:

That's wrong on so many levels, but highly amusing. :lol:

I used to know all about this sort of shit when I was in orchestra, but for the life of me I can't comprehend people that would want to talk like this on a regular basis.
 
I love prog metal but I despise progsnobs, music snobs, music theory snobs. And frogs. I hate fucking frogs with passion.

I tend to dislike snobs of any sort. Music snobs, beer snobs, grammar snobs, etc.

That thread discussion that Nailz posted to me only shows one thing: The prog(musictheory)snobs use their vast knowledge to compensate for their inability to maintain a normal social life. "Girlfriends? Friends? Who needs them when we have the Circle of Fifths and 47/9 time signatures?"

Normally I would agree here, but at every prog rock/metal show I've attended, I've seen a substantial number of shy, nerdy, polo-shirt-and-khaki-wearing guys, with hot girlfriends. I just don't get it. It seems to be a contradiction in social science. (I should clarify that I tend to consider the "girl-next-door" type of women to be hotter than the "model-esque" type -- L.A. 8's as Chris Rifkin would say, or 2-carats, as Michael would call them -- but, then, this leads to a discussion that is probably more fit for the PM:X^2 Pub board. :) )
 
...must be awful. Can you imagine music theory and math applied to it? :lol:

"Honey, let's do it in 16/9 today. I am in the mood for some dissonant and atonal climax. Just like (insert progsnob wet-dream band here) did it."

:lol:

"No, I'm in a power-prog mood today... let's do something with some CRUNCH!"
 
I tend to dislike snobs of any sort. Music snobs, beer snobs, grammar snobs, etc.

Yeah, same here. How about frogs, though?

booB said:
Normally I would agree here, but at every prog rock/metal show I've attended, I've seen a substantial number of shy, nerdy, polo-shirt-and-khaki-wearing guys, with hot girlfriends. I just don't get it. It seems to be a contradiction in social science. (I should clarify that I tend to consider the "girl-next-door" type of women to be hotter than the "model-esque" type -- or 2-carats, as Michael would call them -- but, then, this leads to a discussion that is probably more fit for the PM:X^2 Pub board. :) )

You know, I see those too. But here's my theory: the girls are either nerds too (and they're 95% of the time annoying as fuck!) or they don't stick around for long. A third alternative would be that these guys aren't as big nerds/musicsnobs as we thought.

booB said:
I just don't get it.

Of course not. You ain't prog enough to understand their mojo. :lol:
 
Normally I would agree here, but at every prog rock/metal show I've attended, I've seen a substantial number of shy, nerdy, polo-shirt-and-khaki-wearing guys, with hot girlfriends. I just don't get it. It seems to be a contradiction in social science. (I should clarify that I tend to consider the "girl-next-door" type of women to be hotter than the "model-esque" type -- L.A. 8's as Chris Rifkin would say, or 2-carats, as Michael would call them -- but, then, this leads to a discussion that is probably more fit for the PM:X^2 Pub board. :) )


I take it you're not familiar with the concept of a "gold digger."
 
That captured post is reminiscent of many, MANY conversations that ended up on the Ytsejam mailing list 15 years ago...