Hello.
Here is the permalink to my introduction post in case you want to see some info. I was routed to this forum by a friend who convinced me that this is the best place to seek guidance in metal production.
Info
Naturally, I was seeking forum because I need help. Before that, though, I think it's important to provide few informations on the situation: I'm a self-taught producer and composer using software and generally don't know much about music theory, playing instruments or gear. I can, for example, listen and take down melodies on the keyboard with ease, say, but I have no clue what I'm doing. I've spent the past 10 years producing and composing orchestral and electronica music and although I'm good at it, I still do everything by feeling. it just happened that way and there's no turning back. So when you talk to me, it's best to pretend as if I'm mentally challenged.
Since before summer of this year I finally started working on metal-type music, waiting for the right time, y'know, money, software, etc. The music of Rammstein, Ruoska and Eisbrecher is something I'll be aiming at, though other genres are not excluded. However, it's lame to start composing while with every new day my sound shifts to better, so I'm aiming to have an approximately-complete setup and then do a so-called demo album in the future.
Problem
I'm stuck. The production of this music is different and I'm not familiar with it. I'm learning on the way, but most of my work is method of mistakes. I need a guide because I don't know what to do to increase quality. I think I raped my production yesterday and destroyed even the possibly good sound I had.
The software I'm using which is an electric guitar is Shreddage for rythm/powerlead and EEG Strawberry for everything else. We will focus on the Shreddage.
The amps I'm using are Metal Amp Room, Revalver MKIII and Guitar Rig 4 (as well as TSE ENGL head freeware).
The host is FL Studio and it's the only program that suits me.
I was convinced that although I can't reach 100% exact sound, I can reach 85-92% of what I want and for that the MAR and especially Revalver should do the trick. If you know better, please suggest so. I will not be using real equpiment.
This is the perfect sound I want to approach: . Alternatively, it's this: and the likes.
Now, ignore bass-drums (bass is Pettin, drums are Addictive Drums), this is where I'm with my current setup (want Pirunkieli):
This is revalvermkIII cabinet default x4 with TSE head and a bit of EQ (cut below 200, reduced mid):
Riff Revalver MKIII+TSE Speedyshare
This is Metal Amp Room:
Riff Metal Amp Speedyshare
This is Guitar Rig 4 Rammfire head+cabinet no control room:
Riff GR4 Rammfire Speedyshare
All three plays are on Shreddage with open sustains which means I'm layering notes to make a powerchord, although shreddage does have auto-powerchords which I generally don't like because it' lacks composing freedom.
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So, the issues: The screeching, trashy sound, too much in front, too much extra noise, it kinda iron-screeches cccc when palm muting instead being soft, clean but strong, etc. Whenever I improve, I think fuck this is great this shit can't get better, then I listen a song next day and realize it's not good enough. Then I listen to Ruoska and realize it's not good at all.
No clue what to do anymore (please don't say buy real equipment, that's not the point because I heard brilliant mixes based exclusively on software
).
Here is the permalink to my introduction post in case you want to see some info. I was routed to this forum by a friend who convinced me that this is the best place to seek guidance in metal production.
Info
Naturally, I was seeking forum because I need help. Before that, though, I think it's important to provide few informations on the situation: I'm a self-taught producer and composer using software and generally don't know much about music theory, playing instruments or gear. I can, for example, listen and take down melodies on the keyboard with ease, say, but I have no clue what I'm doing. I've spent the past 10 years producing and composing orchestral and electronica music and although I'm good at it, I still do everything by feeling. it just happened that way and there's no turning back. So when you talk to me, it's best to pretend as if I'm mentally challenged.
Since before summer of this year I finally started working on metal-type music, waiting for the right time, y'know, money, software, etc. The music of Rammstein, Ruoska and Eisbrecher is something I'll be aiming at, though other genres are not excluded. However, it's lame to start composing while with every new day my sound shifts to better, so I'm aiming to have an approximately-complete setup and then do a so-called demo album in the future.
Problem
I'm stuck. The production of this music is different and I'm not familiar with it. I'm learning on the way, but most of my work is method of mistakes. I need a guide because I don't know what to do to increase quality. I think I raped my production yesterday and destroyed even the possibly good sound I had.
The software I'm using which is an electric guitar is Shreddage for rythm/powerlead and EEG Strawberry for everything else. We will focus on the Shreddage.
The amps I'm using are Metal Amp Room, Revalver MKIII and Guitar Rig 4 (as well as TSE ENGL head freeware).
The host is FL Studio and it's the only program that suits me.
I was convinced that although I can't reach 100% exact sound, I can reach 85-92% of what I want and for that the MAR and especially Revalver should do the trick. If you know better, please suggest so. I will not be using real equpiment.
This is the perfect sound I want to approach: . Alternatively, it's this: and the likes.
Now, ignore bass-drums (bass is Pettin, drums are Addictive Drums), this is where I'm with my current setup (want Pirunkieli):
This is revalvermkIII cabinet default x4 with TSE head and a bit of EQ (cut below 200, reduced mid):
Riff Revalver MKIII+TSE Speedyshare
This is Metal Amp Room:
Riff Metal Amp Speedyshare
This is Guitar Rig 4 Rammfire head+cabinet no control room:
Riff GR4 Rammfire Speedyshare
All three plays are on Shreddage with open sustains which means I'm layering notes to make a powerchord, although shreddage does have auto-powerchords which I generally don't like because it' lacks composing freedom.
//
So, the issues: The screeching, trashy sound, too much in front, too much extra noise, it kinda iron-screeches cccc when palm muting instead being soft, clean but strong, etc. Whenever I improve, I think fuck this is great this shit can't get better, then I listen a song next day and realize it's not good enough. Then I listen to Ruoska and realize it's not good at all.
No clue what to do anymore (please don't say buy real equipment, that's not the point because I heard brilliant mixes based exclusively on software
).
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