soilwork using fredman technique on new record

[joeymusicguy]

the microphones are less than 3 inches from the speaker
its not gonna matter where the hell you put the cab

edit: and they're probably reamping anyways so who cares

 

[JeffTD]

the microphones are less than 3 inches from the speaker
its not gonna matter where the hell you put the cab

edit: and they're probably reamping anyways so who cares

Bullshit - even with a single SM57 right up on the grill, the room makes a huge difference.

 

[JBroll]

It does make a huge difference, no matter where you put the mic - sound does this little thing where it reflects off of surfaces, which kinda throws some things off.

Jeff

 

[Glenn Fricker]

the microphones are less than 3 inches from the speaker
its not gonna matter where the hell you put the cab

edit: and they're probably reamping anyways so who cares

It will matter with the cab itself loading up bass frequencies. Thru many, many experiments, I've learned that even with super-close miking, the cab's position in the room really does matter.

 

[JBroll]

It's hell with open-back cabinets, and while it's not as bad for closed-back it's still something to watch out for - the reflected sound is not only very different from the 'original' (walls aren't quite as trebly and tend to 'slur' things more), it's causing bizarre and sometimes outright nonsensical interaction with the sound going into the mic from the speaker when it comes back from its trip to wallville.

Jeff

 

[iekobrid]

Uncle Guitarist is the one who appears to be enjoying his own company a little too much at the 2.48 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJULYdRRx3s

 

[LSD-Studio]

it's not phasing issues resulting from reflections, but the roommodes that fuck your lowend.

you've got the axial, tangential and oblique-modes, in the tri-corners you find them all

just look at a pressure-plot, then you'll see that you wanna avoid walls and especially corners.

 

[joeymusicguy]

it's not phasing issues resulting from reflections, but the roommodes that fuck your lowend.

you've got the axial, tangential and oblique-modes, in the tri-corners you find them all

just look at a pressure-plot, then you'll see that you wanna avoid walls and especially corners.

so why is soilwork and their enginner/producer not giving a shit about this?
not arguing, i agree that it will effect the sound
but i see loads of pictures of metal bands and huge bands that have cabs in closets, next to walls, in corners, and just plain anything that isnt "right"

and it boggles my mind

 

[LSD-Studio]

Hehe,
never said its "not allowed" to place a cab against the wall....

there are tons of things that are "not common" but still constantly used and done....
I'm putting my cabs in a small booth, too...just because I don't have another option, but I do have to reduce low-mud-mids all the time, doesn't mean you can't work with such situations or it's not possible to get decent results.
Oz did great recordings before he thought about that stuff.....there's always something that can be improved (even with the big ones)

 

[joeymusicguy]

Hehe,
never said its "not allowed" to place a cab against the wall....

there are tons of things that are "not common" but still constantly used and done....
I'm putting my cabs in a small booth, too...just because I don't have another option, but I do have to reduce low-mud-mids all the time, doesn't mean you can't work with such situations or it's not possible to get decent results.
Oz did great recordings before he thought about that stuff.....there's always something that can be improved (even with the big ones)

even then, soilwork is a pretty huge act, and im sure half of them know a thing or two about recording by now

so it still blows my mind that a production like this (im sure its budget is well over a 10 grand) has what everyone is gawking over, cabs next to the wall

oh well. i know a thing or two about mics, and i know that micing a guitar cab just isnt for me :Smokin:

 

[LSD-Studio]

as I said, there's no "right" or "wrong" in recording...
if it works it's good.

I just said that placing a cab in the corner USUALLY is not the optimum way of recording guitars...that doesn't mean it sucks...it might be perfect in some situations though.
do whatever you want, with or without mics

 

[JBroll]

LSD, a very common problem is unwanted phase interaction between reflected and 'original' waves - this is basic physics. I'm sure they know what they're doing, though, I just have to wonder what they set their bass to if they're using the Fredman method and shoving their cab against a wall...

Jeff

 

[ahjteam]

http://www.soilwork.org/index.php?page=1

i think its time i keep my pod off for a while

old thread is old, but I found this ironic when I checked the link:

SOILWORK TO ENTER STUDIO!

It's official: SOILWORK will enter the studio in January 2010! The long-awaited follow-up to 2007's Sworn To A Great Divide will be produced by guitarist Peter Wichers and mixed by Jens Bogren (OPETH, KATATONIA, PARADISE LOST, BLOODBATH). Drums will be tracked at Echo Mountain in Asheville, NC. The rest of the recording is set to take place in Tampa, FL and the mix at Fascination Street in Orebro, Sweden.

SOILWORK's as-yet-untitled eighth album will be the first to feature Peter Wichers since his return to the band in 2008, as well as the studio debut with guitarist Sylvain Coudret (SCARVE) who also joined last year.

 

[colonel kurtz]

2 1/2 years later and still no dust on that POD

 

[Josh Burgess]

I wonder where in Tampa the recording will be done at.

 

[GarethSE]

2 1/2 years later and still no dust on that POD

hurrr hurrrrr

 

[Zombietakeover]

2 1/2 years later and still no dust on that POD

and a couple hundred thousand records sold later......

 

[joeymusicguy]

thats right bitches!

 

[LosingReality]

lol...no wonder the X is red. lol

 

[Dexter_prog]

Wait, what technique where they using before?