Sonar 7 announced

[::XeS::]

New Features for SONAR 7 Producer Edition: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1158394

 

[slinky_]

and here´s the flash preview: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Sonar_7_Features.swf

SIDECHAINING! Fuckety-yeah!

 

[jhrv]

YEAH!!!

 

[Gnash]

YOWZA!!!

 

[chadsxe]

I know we all have a personal choice when it comes to a host program but I must say Sonar is an amazing product and I don't ever forsee myself using anything else. Not only is arguably the most feature rich host on the market it is also the most cutting edge. In my opinion there is nothing another host can offer that Sonar does not have. On top of the fact that Cakewalk is an amazing company that cares about there customers and listens to there needs.

It really is a shame for those who buy into the ProTools hype because it is "the standard". Or are still loyal to Steinberg even though they have screwed there customers over multiple times.

My hats off to you Cakewalk...

 

[Jaymz]

I know we all have a personal choice when it comes to a host program but I must Sonar is an amazing product and I don't ever forsee myself using anything else. Not only is arguably the most feature rich host on the market it is also the most cutting edge. In my opinion there is nothing another host can offer that Sonar does not have. On top of the fact that Cakewalk is an amazing company that cares about there customers and listens to there needs.

It really is a shame for those who buy into the ProTools hype because it is "the standard". Or are still loyal to Steinberg even though they have screwed there customers over multiple times.

My hats off to you Cakewalk...

Agreed

 

[jhrv]

Agreed

+1

 

[STINNETT]

I agree, Sonar rules. I've already ordered 7. I skipped out on 6 but this one just has too many great new features.

Have you guys seen the new Sonar ads in the magazines which sort of poke fun at the "industry standard"?

 

[chadsxe]

I agree, Sonar rules. I've already ordered 7. I skipped out on 6 but this one just has too many great new features.

Have you guys seen the new Sonar ads in the magazines which sort of poke fun at the "industry standard"?

I also ordered mine this morning.

Yeah I actually seen that ad yesterday. Made me laugh but it is true.

 

[Waterboy]

I agree, Sonar rules. I've already ordered 7. I skipped out on 6 but this one just has too many great new features.

Have you guys seen the new Sonar ads in the magazines which sort of poke fun at the "industry standard"?

Would be great if you could get a link or two for us to check out! I am interested in seeing them. Thanks

 

[::XeS::]

Ads: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/RnRmaCHine/Sonar7adsmaller.jpg

And Feature list:

MIDI Enhancements:

Step Sequencer
Flexible Piano Roll Tools

Piano Roll View Enhancements:

Multiple Automation Controller Lanes
Piano Roll Microscope Mode
Note Event Colors Based on Velocity
Hiding Events in Muted Clips
Adjust Velocity without Changing the Display Type
Select Controllers within Note Duration
Show Velocity on Selected Notes (Optional)
Selection Sensitive Velocity Drawing
Note/Controller Painting (freehand)
Note/Controller Painting (linear)
Controller/Velocity Painting (freehand)
Controller/Velocity Painting (linear)
Note Split
Note Glue
Drag-Quantize
MIDI Event Mute
New Erase Tool Behaviour
Note Hit Testing Improvements
Velocity Audition Options
V-Vocal Pitch-to-MIDI
MIDI Activity Indicators

New Instruments & Instrument Enhancements:

Dimension LE Synth with Garritan Pocket Orchestra
Rapture LE Synth
DropZone Synth
Z3TA+ Synth
Rename Synths in the Synth Rack View
Delete Synth Safeguards
Reload Instrument Definitions

Mixing, Bussing & Playback Enhancements:

Sidechaining
Sidechainable Sonitus Plug-ins
Sidechainable Vintage Channel VC-64 Plug-in
Audio I/O Assignment
LP-64 EQ Plug-in
LP-64 Multiband Compressor Plug-in
External Insert Plug-in
Copying EQ Settings
Dim Solo Mode
Allow Playback with No Data
Reduce GUI Updates to Improve Playback Performance

Export & Delivery Enhancements:

Real-time Bounce
Modification to Track Export
64-bit timeline
Sony Wave-64 Support
New Audio File Formats
Preview Bus
Integrated Audio CD Ripping
Cakewalk Publisher
Burning Audio CDs
Miscellaneous Updates:
Revert Clip(s) to Original Time Stamp
Import Audio / MIDI Files from Clips Pane
File Recovery Mode

 

[ElektricEyez]

I know a recording engineer in town who used to record at Electric Ladyland Studios, and got to work with few big time bands. I was in his studio and he was showing me some 3 dimensional sonar graphs of a 2 second sound clip of white noise. Protools, Nuendo, and a couple others I can't remember off the top of my head (unfortunatly Sonar was not one of them, because I would have liked to have seen that one). Basically the spikes in the graph showed that the sound quality had been reduced. Protools was the worst, not just by a little bit, but it was very spikey, it looked like the rocky mountains it was so bad. Up until then I had always wondered why my sound changed drastically after I had bounced the songs. About a week later, he showed me a recording of an acoustic guitar recorded in Nuendo, and also in Protools, same mic and the protools version sounded very dull compared to the other one. Since then i have changed to Sonar.

On the other hand, I found this very interesting, because most people believe that the good sound mix is only coming from the outboard into outboard compressors etc (Protools HD). Check this out when you get a chance.

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=49&itemid=25669

 

[Metaltastic]

Hmm, seriously starting to consider Sonar recently...a few questions though:

What plugin standard does it support? (meaning, does it support VST?)
What's the difference between Studio and Producer edition?
Does one have to be running a 64-bit OS (meaning, Vista) to take advantage of 64-bit processing? (my CPU is a single-core AMD Turion64, so I know it's capable of handling it)

 

[Mulder]

On the other hand, I found this very interesting, because most people believe that the good sound mix is only coming from the outboard into outboard compressors etc (Protools HD). Check this out when you get a chance.

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=49&itemid=25669

I did that test a couple of weeks ago, and it scared me. I scored very bad, but that was because I always assumed that the mixdowns with the better HFresponse were the ITBmixes... Turned out that the outboard mixes were (way) better in my ears..

Anyway, I'm glad that's a PT thing, when I bounce in Nuendo I can import the file, phaseinvert it on top of the mix and hear absolutely nada.

But Sonar is pretty good you all say? Never worked with it, read that the Kontakt sampler has some serious issues with it and I use that one all the time..

 

[::XeS::]

Hmm, seriously starting to consider Sonar recently...a few questions though:

What plugin standard does it support? (meaning, does it support VST?)
What's the difference between Studio and Producer edition?
Does one have to be running a 64-bit OS (meaning, Vista) to take advantage of 64-bit processing? (my CPU is a single-core AMD Turion64, so I know it's capable of handling it)

1- You can use vst and dxi plugins without any problem.
2- Producer have a little more features (I don't know exactly which)
3- No you can use Win Xp 32 bit. Sonar can use his 64bit double precision engine also if you run a 32 bit system

 

[chadsxe]

Hmm, seriously starting to consider Sonar recently...a few questions though:

What plugin standard does it support? (meaning, does it support VST?)
What's the difference between Studio and Producer edition?
Does one have to be running a 64-bit OS (meaning, Vista) to take advantage of 64-bit processing? (my CPU is a single-core AMD Turion64, so I know it's capable of handling it)

1) Both VST and DirectX are native. Just assign the folder paths and it will register them on startup.

2) Producer has more features. Keep your eye on cakewalk.com over the next day. As soon as they fully update there site for Sonar 7 they will have a chart that has all the features and what is available in each version.

3) No you don't. And if you are wondering yes there is a clear audible diffrence when mixing in the 64 enviroment.

 

[DivisionByZero]

Hm, I read so many good opinions on Sonar lately... What could be the main advantage for a (noob) Cubase SL3 user like me to switch over to Sonar?? The producer versions seems to be phantastic, lots of great plugins as well.

Anyone around here who switched over from Steinberg to Cakewalk? I use a Tascam FW-1884 as soundcard/remote control. Is anybody using Sonar with a remote control?

And does it have this stupid dongle auth. system?

I hope Sonar 6 will be sold for a good price with the advent of version 7...

 

[::XeS::]

I definitelly work better with sonar than nuendo.
Sonar is way more intuitive and you can find quickly everything you need.
But it's very subjective

 

[chadsxe]

Anyone around here who switched over from Steinberg to Cakewalk? I use a Tascam FW-1884 as soundcard/remote control. Is anybody using Sonar with a remote control?

And does it have this stupid dongle auth. system?

I hope Sonar 6 will be sold for a good price with the advent of version 7...

There are a lot of people over on the cakewalk forums that use the Tascam FW - 1884. Check out and you will see some experinces posted.

No it does not have the "stupid dongle" thing.

 

[DivisionByZero]

No it does not have the "stupid dongle" thing.

Very charming

I feel like I should have a more detailed look on the Cakewalk forums, since the Tascam control abilities in Cubase are very limited (screw Steinberg for that).