Spam from the Intro Thread

[Katie'Force]

can i just point out that StephenSLR also spammed the Firewind forum a while back. i doubt very much he's a fan of turisas and he's just here to get new fans
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[StephenSLR]

can i just point out that StephenSLR also spammed the Firewind forum a while back.

You say 'also' as if I have spammed this forum or the Firewind forum for that matter - au contraire.

If you note carefully, this is the 'Introduction thread' and I kept on topic, introduced myself as well as introduced the band I play with. Are you saying it is spam to say hello to people here?

My dear, this is a Metal forum, a part of the Ultimate Metal community and my post is Metal related as well as being 'introduction' related - the name of this thread.

Spam is something unrelated to what the people here are subscribed to.

If my post is considered spam, Looky Looky

What do I see here?

and you should definately check out Tyr,

....somebody :Spam:ming Tyr. Isn't that the pot callling the hashish black!

I doubt very much he's a fan of turisas

Don't be so quick to assume, also, the beauty of the UM forums is you do not have to be a fan of the bands to participate in valid communication, you just need to be a fan of the Metal community because you will see Metal related topics in all the forums that we all here can take part in.

Take a look at the UM Lycanthia forum.

Not every thread is related to Lycanthia, but most are related to Metal and God forbid some are not, feel free to post in the Post whoring thread, surprise, surprise, you do not have to be a fan. Unlike one particular UM member, we do not mind if you are not a fan, as long as you are into Metal and feel like chatting to fellow Metallers you are always welcome.

he's just here to get new fans

...and make new friends.

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[Katie'Force]

this is a turisas forum, for turisas fans, we have on-topic and off-topic threads, but we're all turisas fans, here because we like the band, not because we're in a band ourself and want to use every other forum on the UM site to promote our band! as for my post about Tyr, if i remember rightly someone was asking for similar bands, hence my suggestion, i think my contribution to the many threads on this forum, and on firewind's forum, and the amount of gigs of theirs i've been to proves that i'm a huge fan of both. whereas the only things you posted about on firewind were your band, somehow i think once you've argued with me a little more because i'm sick of people using band forums to promote their own stuff whilst taking no note of the actual band whose foum they're posting on, you'll disappear, just like you did in the firewind one....

 

[StephenSLR]

we have on-topic and off-topic threads,

the introduction thread is an off topic thread right?

you'll disappear, just like you did in the firewind one....

I still browse the Firewind forum as I do with many forums on the UM list.

I get bored at work and home and look for topics I can contribute to.

The Firewind forum hasn't had any thread in recent times that has particularly compelled me to grace with my words. I find all the band worship a little on the boring side but I do like the off topic stuff found in many UM forums.

Check out the LORD off topic forum, one of the best forums in UM in my opinion, I contribute to it daily and I'm not such a great fan of the band.

i think my contribution to the many threads on this forum, and on firewind's forum, and the amount of gigs of theirs i've been to proves that i'm a huge fan of both.

Good for you, nobody says you have to be a bigger fan to get more cred or a lesser fan to be snubbed, as I said the UM community is a great community, you don't have to outprove anyone to have a say in any forum here, if I see a thread that spikes my interest I am honoured to have the privilege to have my say.

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[Katie'Force]

actually the introduction thread is in the 'on-topic' area. usually people say who they are, where they're from, a bit about them, and a bit about how they got into turisas or what they like about the band, turisas that is, not their own band

it's not about who's a bigger or lesser fan, it's about all being fans of the same band. it's common sense that a pre-requisite of posting on a bands forum is that you are actually a fan of that band. nothing you've said so far gives any inidication you've actually ever heard of turisas other than having seen their name as you scrolled down the forum list on UM. This is a metal community, yes, but THIS, this page here, that you're on, is the turisas forum, it may be hosted by UM, but it's still TURISAS'S FORUM, run by turisas, for turisas fans.

 

[StephenSLR]

as for my argument... he's not off topic, he's spam

From the Spamhaus Project, definition of spam:

"Spam is an issue about consent, not content.

Whether the message is an advert, a scam, porn, a begging letter or an offer of a free lunch, the content is irrelevant - if the message was sent unsolicited and in bulk then the message is spam."

Everyone subscribed to this thread is expecting to receive an introductory notice so my post is not unsolicited.

usually people say who they are, where they're from, a bit about them, and a bit about how they got into turisas or what they like about the band, turisas that is,

The key word there is 'usually'......but not always, see other posts in this thread for example

I'm sure you have heard of networking.

I may even in my ventures make friends with the band Turisas themselves and this could lead to Lycanthia sharing the stage with them should they want to play a show in Sydney. Forums can be useful in many ways not only for fanbois & fangirlz.

It's common sense that a pre-requisite of posting on a bands forum is that you are actually a fan of that band.

You are confusing common sense with common forum behaviour.

I am anything but common.

run by turisas, for turisas fans.

....and for anyone else who wants to make a contribution. I'm sure the band wouldn't see it as a negative.

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[StephenSLR]

don't even try and tell me you're trying to be unique

I think you mistake me saying I wasn't common for me saying I was unique but I notice you have a way of mistaking things, second time in the same thread.

What I have done in my life, my achievements, the variety of my activities, my lifestyle, etc. just isn't commonly done. I differ from those I work with, from those I went to uni with, from those in my band, from those I train with, the list goes on. However, since you bring it up, everyone is unique in their own way, so are you in fact.

everyone else actually has an interest in the band whose forum they're on

This is an introduction thread where people have an interest in those willing to introduce themselves.

the exact same "introduction" in every bands forum on UM is classed as in bulk

It isn't the exact same in each case, usually I will give a more detailed description of my band but in this forum I just kept it brief. Most people are interested in knowing what people do, I play in a band and I shared it with all of you.

The unusual thing is, nobody has taken my posts so personally, you are the only person to resent being introduced to new music hence I have proved how unique you really are.

Many people are grateful and compliment my band after hearing the samples.

your band sharing a stage with turisas? geez i hope not!

Why on earth would you be so resentful of that? We have shared the stage with international artists and bands of many Metal genres in many cities around Australia.

It sounds like you think we are not worthy yet you haven't even listened to our samples? Anyway I doubt you would be in Australia when that happens. Of course we both could play your home city but what are the chances?

Are you just naturally on the offensive and want to attack any person out there willing to give it a go? What is it you are afraid of? Do you think my band is a threat to the bands you like or to your reign on the UM forums?

Is your vitriole the result of a shortfall in your own life?

I don't know, just some reasons I can think that would make somebody so spiteful.

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[Katie'Force]

This is an introduction thread where people have an interest in those willing to introduce themselves.

I play in a band and I shared it with all of you.

this is an introduction thread for fans of turisas to introduce themselves to other fans of turisas so we can all get to know each other before contributing to the other threads in this forum

being in a band is all you've shared. you're missing my point THIS IS A TURISAS FORUM FOR TURISAS FANS. i have absolutely no objection to you posting here or on any other forum if you are a fan of the band whose forum you're posting on, i have no objection to hearing new music, i have no objection to you "networking" if you do it in appropriate places but until you address my arguement of it being inappropriate posting on the forum of a band you're blatently not a fan of, then i refuse to argue this any more. The fact is you're the only person that i've seen on UM to do this, every other band respects that although they're hosted on UM, they all have their individual forums for their own fans. you do not seem to understand this
At least have the respect for Turisas to go out and listen to their music if you're going to spam their forum

 

[StephenSLR]

this is an introduction thread for fans of turisas to introduce themselves to other fans of turisas

That is the way you see it and yes it is just one way this forum is used, personally I find it a little limiting, why not use forums to their full potential?

It is also narrow minded to exclude other people who are clearly into Metal and want to chat with like minded people.

THIS IS A TURISAS FORUM FOR TURISAS FANS.

I totally understand that, Turisas fans are also Metal fans and they are not only fans of the one said band, give them the dignity to make up their own minds and expand their musical horizons - this is one place that they can do that in the comfort of a forum of a band they are fans of.

i have absolutely no objection to you posting here or on any other forum if you are a fan of the band whose forum you're posting on

Why should you care so heavily about this?

Does the band Turisas themselves have such strong objection?

I would think they would be grateful for anyone dropping by and adding conversation to their forum, I'm sure I could also have lengthy conversations over a beer with them when they get to Sydney.

a band you're blatently not a fan of.

Who says I am blatantly not a fan of? They are not my all time very favourite band, no band is, but I appreciate many Metal bands and many genres of Metal.

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[Katie'Force]

That is the way you see it and yes it is just one way this forum is used, personally I find it a little limiting, why not use forums to their full potential?

I would think they would be grateful for anyone dropping by and adding conversation to their forum, I'm sure I could also have lengthy conversations over a beer with them when they get to Sydney.

Who says I am blatantly not a fan of? They are not my all time very favourite band, no band is, but I appreciate many Metal bands and many genres of Metal.

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limiting? to only have fans on a band forum? nope, seems more like common sense, I doubt very much the band set the forum up going "ooh lets create a place for other bands to advertise their bands on..."

adding to the conversation? like you did on the firewind forum then yeah?

haha for a so called fan you haven't said a word about the band, what songs you like for instance...

as for what the band think... lets get their opinion then. olli give us an opinion. if i'm wrong i'll leave it, go back to contributing to the forum as i always do, and turn up on the tour wearing my furs and waving my axe, and stephen can go back to the forum he actually converses in...

 

[StephenSLR]

as for what the band think... lets get their opinion. olli give us an opinion.

I'll be glad to hear it too.

..and as an invitation, anyone here, member of Turisas or not, fan of Lycanthia or not, can visit my band's forum.

Feel free to promote your band right here.

Join in on any thread you wish right here.

Members of this very forum do not need to register as you are already members.

We do not discriminate against those wishing to spread the word of METAL!!

I sure do hope I never see a forum member slag off any other UM member in our forum for promoting their band.

Stephen can go back to the forum he actually converses in...

I converse in many forums, this is just one of many.

As you can see I have clocked up over 2,700 posts on just the UM forums alone and very few of that number are to do with my band.

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[Lettuce]

OOOOOO handbags at dawn

 

[Cari]

lol, i gues she doesnt spam the intro-thread anymore *laughing out loud*

 

[StephenSLR]

lol, i gues she doesnt spam the intro-thread anymore *laughing out loud*

Funny, someone so anti-spam ended up doing exactly what she was soooooooo opposed to.

.....in her defence, she was being off-topic, not the true definition of spam.

Though when I think about it, it was all unsolicited and in bulk, lol.

Quite often a thread will veer off course from the original topic and this often makes for interesting reading/discussion.

One example of many:

"Oh you have two female vocalists, a male vocalist and a violinist.... in a Metal band? .....interesting"

etc.

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[Cari]

i am not anti-spam, I never said that *laughing*
it´s been just amusing to see a new topic on this where the posts were moved to, so...

 

[Fenrisúlfr]

The spam and the resulting thread threw the entire thread off, so much so Olli had to send me an email! It is one thing to be off-topic (but still somewhat related), it is another to change it altogether.

 

[*Mika*]

Then why didn't you just delete it from the original thread and leave a modly warning in its place, there was no need for this thread, if anything it just encourages the argument to continue...

 

[Fenrisúlfr]

Then let it continue where it would not constitute spam.

 

[*Mika*]

That may well be one half of the original problem solved but its still an argument, surely as a mod you're meant to defuse them so the forum can return to its usual peace.
I'm not siding with either party, but you can't help but notice the sourness that is posted when one or the other replies, at least lock this topic to put means to an end

 

[StephenSLR]

It is one thing to be off-topic (but still somewhat related), it is another to change it altogether.

Being active in many forums, I have seen this happen a lot and it can get very interesting. Threads usually get back on course as you will have a new person come into play that will reply to the title and it will resume to where it left off.

i'ts still an argument, surely as a mod you're meant to defuse them so the forum can return to its usual peace.

One of the purposes of a forum is to debate issues. Bands that are not into forums and discussion don't venture past a 'guestbook'.

you can't help but notice the sourness that is posted when one or the other replies

If you read my initial post I came in peace, I kept it brief. That is where it should have ended.

I have absolutely no idea why it was taken so personally, nobody else here had an issue with it.

For some reason I was quite viciously attacked. I defended myself as any person with a spirit would.

I'm an abiding member of the forums, someone trying to meet new people, yes I play in a band and I let people know who we are - big deal. I didn't go on about it.

I do contribute to this forum on other matters, there are some interesting topics, you have a nice community here.

you can't help but notice the sourness that is posted when one or the other replies, at least lock this topic to put means to an end

Our ensuing debate didn't escalate into name calling or foul language, it was debated in a civil manner. Some here may want to add so I don't see a need to lock it.

Rest assured the title alone will give it a very short shelf life.

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