Studio Building Time!

[NSGUITAR]

Alright guys. Next week I'll be starting my new studio construction and I have a few questions for you all!


1- I'm building a wall to make two separate rooms: A control room, and a live room. What did you guys do to ensure that there was a minimal amount of sound being pushed through that wall? I want it to be nice and soundproof. There will be a 2 pane window in the middle of the wall as well, so take that into consideration. I know I must do more than a simple 2x4/dry wall. Do you guys use a certain insulation for it? What else goes into the wall?


2- Do you guys know where I can find a ton of studio treatment foam for a good price? Any secret websites? Any of you guys get deals that I could pay YOU for?


If I think of any other things I'll add them as this thread goes, but I'll post some pics of the space soon and keep everybody updated. In the mean time-ANSWERS! :b

Thanks guys

 

[006]

Look up the John Sayers forum. All your answers are there.

 

[NSGUITAR]

Look up the John Sayers forum. All your answers are there.

I love you.

 

[NSGUITAR]

Is John Sayers>GearSlutz for this type of thing?

 

[dcb]

Alright guys. Next week I'll be starting my new studio construction and I have a few questions for you all!


1- I'm building a wall to make two separate rooms: A control room, and a live room. What did you guys do to ensure that there was a minimal amount of sound being pushed through that wall? I want it to be nice and soundproof. There will be a 2 pane window in the middle of the wall as well, so take that into consideration. I know I must do more than a simple 2x4/dry wall. Do you guys use a certain insulation for it? What else goes into the wall?

youll actually have to build more than just 1 wall.
there is no way you can soundproof a room, if its not "a room inside a room"
with a floating floor and stuff like that.
but yeah go see the forum. its really a complex topic.

 

[Strachan of D]

3 layered walls with a 3 layered window \|/ with cystal stuff at the bottom o each pane

 

[Joematthews]

Don't build a 3 layer glass window, stick to a 2 layer one. Look up the triple leaf effect.

Secondly, it's unlikely you'll get what you want by just building a wall. For isolation to be effective you need mass and decoupling. If you just build a wall the rooms are coupled together and your sound isolation will be poor.

Learn more about room design, construction or acoustics before you touch the tools, and even then, check with experts on john sayers and gearslutz.

 

[crillemannen]

A always.. Hire an architect. If you are on a limited budget just hire one to get some consultation. It will help you allot.

 

[jipchen]

A always.. Hire an architect. If you are on a limited budget just hire one to get some consultation. It will help you allot.

+1

Hiring a studio-designer/acoustician and an architect if you're to build bigger stuff is super helpful, will save you lots of work, mistakes and letdowns.. and improve the result by the factor 1000. I spent nearly half a year on JohnLSayers for a few hours a day and then realized you can't just quickly read a few things and build a studio. There's a reason people do that for a living.

 

[barricade]

Yep... never build 3 or more leaf walls...it's worse each time you add a leaf! 2 leaf walls FTW!

 

[HeadCrusher]

Uhm, what am I gonna do next week? Hey, why not build a studio? I'll just throw up a wall real quick and put in some Acoustic foam (That's gonna make my room sound great, right? After all it's called acoustic foam!) = instant profit!

Did I forget anything? Oh, yeah, I need to bring in an SSL as well.

Love your approach.

 

[006]

Yeah the Sayers forum is specifically for acoustic engineering, GearSlutz is for wanking your e-peen with a bunch of cork-sniffing assholes.

 

[JamesNorman]

I'm in the middle of building now, I have sprearated the two rooms completely as in built the frame for one room left a 5 inch gap then built my other room. I'm then building a thick mdf wall with a plasterboard then a soundboard on top for the live room Walls near the control room, and double soundboards for the rest. Then double soundboards for my control room. Then the doors to each room have a foam strip around the frame, takes abit of effort to close, but makes a difference, as for the window im using a three pain window with the front ones angled out slightley!

 

[Ermz]

The topic is really involved. I spent a good 6 months doing heavy research only to develop a rudimentary understanding that applies to residential properties and the most effective way to treat them. Designing a facility to be soundproof AND treated at the same time is a scientific endeavor, and you'd be wise to consult with a renowned professional acoustician first.

 

[ratsapprentice]

The topic is really involved. I spent a good 6 months doing heavy research only to develop a rudimentary understanding that applies to residential properties and the most effective way to treat them. Designing a facility to be soundproof AND treated at the same time is a scientific endeavor, and you'd be wise to consult with a renowned professional acoustician first.

This

Your post makes it seem like you're being a bit slap-dash with it.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Two-leaf wall structure all over, not just the separating wall, ditch the "studio foam" idea and hire an acustician.

I'm afraid you might be shitting yourself in the coming days when you find studio construction is just a little bit more complicated and expensive than a separating wall with a window and lots of "studio foam"

Keep us posted!

 

[NSGUITAR]

Well, of course I was being a bit flippant with my explanation. My uncle is an architect so he's going to help with that for free (got lucky). However as far as the acoustics go. The thing about this is that I'll only have this place for a year or so, then I have to move cities, as agreed with my lady as the graduate school she wants to attend is about 70 miles from here. So what I'm doing won't be my ULTIMATE studio yet. And I figure within that year I will continue to research how to make a perfect studio as I run this one.

The wall does not have to be perfectly sound proof, really for me. I'm just looking for something to separate two rooms both for aesthetics and a bit of sound separation. The more, the better I suppose, but like I said, this will not be permanent, unfortunately. It's a good first building experience though.

I was lurking gear slutz and learned how to make my own bass traps and sound panels, so I think for now, in the control room, I'll put the bass traps in each corner, and the studio panels about 4 inches apart on the walls. From the looks of a lot of studios, that's what a lot of people were doing.

 

[NSGUITAR]

Uhm, what am I gonna do next week? Hey, why not build a studio? I'll just throw up a wall real quick and put in some Acoustic foam (That's gonna make my room sound great, right? After all it's called acoustic foam!) = instant profit!

Did I forget anything? Oh, yeah, I need to bring in an SSL as well.

Love your approach.

Things like this.. Things like this dude.

 

[jipchen]

I'm in the middle of building now, I have sprearated the two rooms completely as in built the frame for one room left a 5 inch gap then built my other room. I'm then building a thick mdf wall with a plasterboard then a soundboard on top for the live room Walls near the control room, and double soundboards for the rest. Then double soundboards for my control room. Then the doors to each room have a foam strip around the frame, takes abit of effort to close, but makes a difference, as for the window im using a three pain window with the front ones angled out slightley!

Sounds good man, I hope the ceiling and floor are also decoupled from those of the other room? Otherwise you will hear the bass frequencies nontheless.
You should open a thread and post pictures of the progress (and the drawbacks), it's always super interesting

 

[006]

Things like this.. Things like this dude.

I wholly agree, a fucking stupid and unnecessary post, just ignore it though I'd say