Tell me if I'm doing this correctly (Aligning samples)

[NSGUITAR]

I've been getting some...odd results lately.


Sometimes I like to use the same midi file to play both slate and superior.. After I have the samples selected that I want to use it, I print them, and then delete the midi tracks to save CPU.. When I do this, the samples don't seem to be in phase with eachother.. I scroll in and they are, indeed, a little out of phase..

Why is this? Is the engine for kontakt a little faster than the one in Superior? Because the slate samples are perfectly on the grid, and the superior are always a tad late..


What is a good way of fixing this to make them perfect? Would doing tab to transient, slicing then hitting quantize fix this?

 

[P-E]

If they're always equally late, you could just cut the beginning of the whole track and nudge it back a bit.

 

[Seth Munson]

Im pretty sure it matters more about the samples themselves and how much "pre-time" there is before the actual sample it released.

I use kontakt for everything and when printing slate, sturgis and my own samples, they are all off time and out of phase.
nothing a simple Tab to Transient and snapping to grid cant fix

 

[MarcM]

you have to realize what your playing with.
those are digital tracks.
if you did that with an analog console/tape machine, it wouldnt be out of phase.
the whole " nudge back abit" thing doesnt work
thats an amature mistake.

and blending samples is fine.
but, you have to remember that those two designated samples are designed to cut through mixes.
your going to have to do some EQing to both
like..which sample do you want more of the highs to present?
which sample do you want more of their mids..and so on.

let it fit together
dont just squash two samples together. thats not what engineering is all about.

their out of phase cause those dominant samples are fighting to cut through. hence why they are out of phase and sound a little funny.

time aligning wont fix this mistake.
head back to the drawing board.

make sure both samples are totally coincident as time goes.
and make them sound as one sample.
then post it. see if that helps

 

[Charles J]

you have to realize what your playing with.
those are digital tracks.
if you did that with an analog console/tape machine, it wouldnt be out of phase.
the whole " nudge back abit" thing doesnt work
thats an amature mistake.

and blending samples is fine.
but, you have to remember that those two designated samples are designed to cut through mixes.
your going to have to do some EQing to both
like..which sample do you want more of the highs to present?
which sample do you want more of their mids..and so on.

let it fit together
dont just squash two samples together. thats not what engineering is all about.

their out of phase cause those dominant samples are fighting to cut through. hence why they are out of phase and sound a little funny.

time aligning wont fix this mistake.
head back to the drawing board.

make sure both samples are totally coincident as time goes.
and make them sound as one sample.
then post it. see if that helps

+1 to the majority of this. blending samples already meant to cut through a mix can let to really nasty, spikey transient action that will manifest itself in quite a few stages of your mix in a very ugly way...

 

[RichMinerva]

This is gunna sound stupid but how do you print superior tracks in logic to save CPU?