That was a close one!

[LydonB]

yeah....more alternative fuels already...oh wait, i forgot...bush cut their funding.

 

[metalkingdom]

Terrorists don't respond to negotiation, and they don't respond to violence, they just keep killing mindlessly. They will continue to proliferate, their message is an open concept and anyone can sign on. But they will constantly be killed by their enemies. Nothing that the USA can do will ever satisfy their demands. Israel will never go away because their military is too strong. Therefore the conflict will never stop. It probably won't spread a whole lot either.

I don't think it's WWIII because there's not enough at stake in terms of resources. Everyone knows the oil is running out and we need to move to other sources of energy, so that argument is irrelevant. It's an endless cycle of religious conflict, nothing more.

Obviously you don't know what started WWI. "Resources" have nothing to do with any of this. It never does. Contrary to popular belief, this is not a religious conflict either. The fundamentalists use religion as justification for their actions. You and anyone else that describes people commiting murder and suicide simultaneously for their cause as "mindless" are absolutely foolish. How many statements from these guys have you listened to - translated in their entirety? They know exactly what they're doing. You're making a big mistake if you think that these guys are stupid. This shit is waaaay deeper than you think. I don't call them "terrorists". They are trying to defend their way of life the only way that they can. They don't have large armies, and we're crazy to expect these guys to follow the rules of European style warfare. They don't stand a chance if they play by our rules.

Israel will go away if Iran drops a nuke on it - which they intend to do asap. But until then, Israel will continue to exist because we (the U.S.) deems it that way. We built and trained their military, and they receive billions in our support. After all, we created Israel. That's really when all of this started - at least in the modern age.

 

[LydonB]

Israel will go away if Iran drops a nuke on it - which they intend to do asap. But until then, Israel will continue to exist because we (the U.S.) deems it that way. We built and trained their military, and they receive billions in our support. After all, we created Israel. That's really when all of this started - at least in the modern age.

so thats why they hate us. i have wondered about that :feels stupid:

 

[Kenneth R.]

Unavailable for comment.

kudos to britain... and unfortunately though no one was killed or property damaged (which is very good!) the act of terrorism succeeded in that it scared world governments & airlines into yet more security overhead...

as for WW3... yes. think of the sheer number of places US troops are fighting in, or are threatened by. Think of the scope of our 'world war on terror' and all the intricate alliances on every side. Whatever you call it, it's a worldwide war.

 

[Skyweaver]

Can't we settle this over a pint ?........

I dont know how many guys have kids on this board, but I've got 3 and this shit thats going on really concerns me about the future of my kids, sure I live in Australia and the worse they could do is blow up a sheep or two, but what are they trying to achieve through death ? - understanding...I doubt it, death breeds more death...

I guess the only way that we can look at things is make the most of your time here, cause it seems to be getting shorter....

 

[Kenneth R.]

that's my point man... until we get through to these people on some kind of level besides bombing (though i admit this would be intensely difficult) it's just going to be a cycle of death.

 

[JBroll]

That's not going to happen - it's like trying to get Pat Robertson to sleep with the devil. Good fucking luck.

What we should really be concerned about, though, is the ability of terrorists to bring motherfucking snakes on these motherfucking planes.

Jeff

 

[MKS]

That's not going to happen - it's like trying to get Pat Robertson to sleep with the devil. Good fucking luck.

Jeff

I thought he was the devil.

 

[NathanSoulfracture]

and another for good measure:

 

[metalkingdom]

I thought he was the devil.

My grandma lives less than a mile away from that nut. For some odd reason, everytime I drive by his complex I feel compelled to stare at it

 

[JBroll]

Both of those pictures are... wow. Just wow.

And I must give the devil more credit than that, honestly. Satan's come along way since the Dark Ages' incubi and succubi - it would be sad to see the Unholy One in such a decrepit state.

Jeff

 

[J the TyranT]

I submitted that fucking whitesnakes on a plan joke to Fark... dont know if its been greenlit yet.

J

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Oz is right by saying that the only way to solve issues of this magnitude is with death and violence.

Holy shit! MK and I actually agree on something!

 

[Frank'nfurter]

Terrorists don't respond to negotiation, and they don't respond to violence, they just keep killing mindlessly. They will continue to proliferate, their message is an open concept and anyone can sign on. But they will constantly be killed by their enemies. Nothing that the USA can do will ever satisfy their demands. Israel will never go away because their military is too strong. Therefore the conflict will never stop. It probably won't spread a whole lot either.

I don't think it's WWIII because there's not enough at stake in terms of resources. Everyone knows the oil is running out and we need to move to other sources of energy, so that argument is irrelevant. It's an endless cycle of religious conflict, nothing more.

You are absolutely right. It always starts with nonsense like this: ...my god is the one and only...

 

[Mutant]

harsh words. i think - aggression does not evoke less aggression.

Wrong !

What would happen if one aggressive man killed all aggressive people (including all previously non aggressive people that became aggressive because he killed their aggressive friends/relatives) and then killed himself for being aggressive ?

No more aggression !

 

[JBroll]

Umm...

Until another one found a religion/girl he wanted to show off to so he could nail her/Chuck Norris film/telly/firearm/history book/testicles...

Jeff

 

[Skyweaver]

its interesting, the UN finally passed a resolution and Israel push deeper into lebabnon - UN - talk about a paper tiger.....is the only solution to turn the entire middle east into a glass car park ?

 

[chuck1703]

Because there's too much religion in the world.

Spot on mate! Don't care what anyone says its always comes back to religion.

 

[trym^^]

With all due respect, that's just not the case. Read a history book. Anytime anything major got solved, it was because of violence, not negotiation. Protest lines didn't save England from invasion during the summer of 1940... the R.A.F. did.

I know that might be a somewhat controversial view, but I do believe that it's time to wake up & realize you just can't negotiate with religious extremists. When they burn embassies to the ground for the high crime of printing an editorial cartoon, it's pretty obvious there's a few screws loose.

-0z-

conflict itself is rooted in aggression.
the history of mankind really is a bad example to build the future upon.
and yes, sometimes peacemaking is to use the end-all massive
amount of aggression that eradicates one of the actors.
but i like to think that its not per sé a good solution.
take hiroshima for example.

also note that i referred to a statement by kev, there was no abstract context.
its bitter enough such things as stoning people exist so theres no point being cynical about this.
plus, as you were mentioning the royal airforce: military action should be of good reason,
what the allies did in wwII was the absolute right thing. the nazi regime had to be stopped.
but the british airforce also killed thousand of civilians during the bombenkrieg-which was evidentially not necessary.
you see theres always two sides of the story. judging by plain numbers, wwIII already started,
just look at the death tolls and nations/peoples involved in the middle east conflict. just my two cents.
with all due respect, i've read a few books on history. im a history student

edit: speaking of cynicism, the folks that enraged about those caricatures and burned down embassies
were simple citizens. your statement maybe was a little one dimensional, theres more to it than "a few screws loose".

 

[trym^^]

Spot on mate! Don't care what anyone says its always comes back to religion.

in many cases religion is just one form of egoism.