The Big Question

Diabolik said:
I agree Jason...well worded. It seems it is turning into a Us vs Them thing right now. Which is lame since we all supported the fest.
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Although that is a valid concern, that will never happen!! Come on, you should know us well enough by now to know we'd never alienate anyone. All suggestions will of course be considered (as they were in the past), & for those who don't sponsor, it won't be any different.

We're not stupid!! Of course we know some people don't have the financial means to sponsor a fest or a band...which is part of the reason why we never asked before...we kind of felt guilty for asking anyone for money just to help fund something where we have all the control & say.

Also, since organizing this fest has never been about feeding our egos or obviously the money, is the reason why we would now rather ask for everyone's help than see all our hard work in building this fest be all for naught! It's our baby, yes...but it's time to ask our extended family for help. I know that's cheesy, but true. :p

And to clarify even further for your concern...all non-sponsors, non-socializers & non-forum posters will still be treated the same & kept in mind while making all fest-related decisions. It's just that the sponsors, socializers & forum people are just more active participants in the community...that's all.

However, and of course...all the sponsors will have our eternal gratitude for helping the Powerfest survive financially. :worship:
 
Jasonic said:
Rob - yes, indeed makes sense.

I really like the idea of us coming to you with band ideas.
Though, I am sure everyone has different financial situations and obligations which would impact their ability to contribute.

While I know it is too early to talk about the details of the 2008 sponsorship, I did come up with an idea:
Have three different levels of Sponsors (IE - Level 1 - 3, Bronze through Gold, etc).
Therefore, let's say 10 people who want Band X could only afford a nominal amount to sponsor. They could be Level I sponsors, whose benefit might be just admission and a shirt. Level 2 would be obviously a higher sponsorship with increased perks. Then Level 3 would get the max perks (whatever, tshirt, backstage, catering, VIP, etc).
This would allow more people to be sponsors, while still rewarding those who are the BIG sponsors.
(And will obviously generate more funding for guarantees and overhead).

That's totally cool that you want to make it more than just the live show for all those involved. It sounds like all the bands and hotel guests had a blast.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Once again, you come with ideas we have already thought of & have thought through...almost exactly. :lol: :p

But still, thanks! ;)

There will be tiers....and how dare you mention a Bronze through Gold thing?!?! :p :lol: Guard!...take this blasphemer away!! :lol:
 
Firehead said:
The Progpower buy-in for sponsoring is usually $500-1000. Is this the range you'll be looking at? And would $1000 from just one person be enough to guarantee a showing of that band?
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It will be a similar range for sponsorship...yes. However, perks will be different depending on amount.

Also, $1000 won't necessarily guarantee a band, but depending on who that is, it might be a band we'd consider bringing over anyway & your $1000 would still be considered a much appreciated sponsorship. :kickass:

Do you have a particular band in mind? Send me a PM, and I could give you a better answer regarding the possibility.
 
GateXII said:
It will be a similar range for sponsorship...yes. However, perks will be different depending on amount.

Also, $1000 won't necessarily guarantee a band, but depending on who that is, it might be a band we'd consider bringing over anyway & your $1000 would still be considered a much appreciated sponsorship. :kickass:

Do you have a particular band in mind? Send me a PM, and I could give you a better answer regarding the possibility.
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Thanks for the answer. It wouldn't be me but a friend of mine who doesn't messageboard at all. I'll let him know the details.
 
GateXII said:
Not true...haha...I'm all about getting Candlemass for 2008...but you gotta show how bad you want them...$$$. :p

Well Jason...looks like you have a job to do this year. ;)

Best of luck & we hope you succeed! :kickass:
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Alright guys, time to start pooling for Candlemass! Hopefully Leif Edling will get some positive feedback from Rob Lowe and John Perez, and he'll want to do it in a heartbeat! :kickass:
 
I think that tiered sponsorship would be a good thing, just because I know I would like to contribute, but $500-$1000 is a bit out of my price range... That's two semesters worth of college books (which tells you how much BS it is to buy books for college, eh?). :erk:
 
Ok, here's the question I have though.
Let's take Candlemass as an example, since they have been mentioned.

We all know their new one drops this June.

Would they even commit to something this far in advance? I mean once the album is released, they will obviously get tons of touring offers.

That being said, is it TOO early to even start thinking of bands, given the fact that any particular band might possibly have different plans?

Though I guess if a band is approached with the offer, they could build a tour around it.

And yes Rob, sorry, I know I probably have suggested a million things that I am sure you guys have discussed MANY times already.

Things pop in my head and I spit them out.
Apparently, this is not to the liking of some people.
Oh well!!!!

(Anyone with me on raging total DOOMination on Powerfest 2008???)
 
booB said:
I don't know if you really meant this or not, but if you did, then you're out of your gourd. Atheist singlehandedly CREATED a genre of metal, and Solitude Aeturnus is one of the pre-eminent doom bands, ever.

You can say that the lineup didn't interest you enough to make the trip... but to suggest that it's somehow a bad lineup is just plain arrogance.
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So to have an opinion that's not yours is arrogance? I never said "My band" this or "my band" that. I don't even personally care for Mystic Prophecy, but what I said (and you so easily ignored) is that "I think they were on the right path". You read into that statement that Mystic Prophecy is "My band'? Furthermore, I went on to say that bands need to be relevant (not in the old contributory sense but in the "still current and actively producing music sense).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Athiest produced 3 cds in the heyday of metal and had no commercial impact to speak of. They weren't landing the MTV HEadbanger's ball tours as some of their peers were. They weren't in any kind of video rotation that I can recall. Sure, they may have contributed to a style or genre in some musical sense, but history is littered with bands like that who have long since disappeared. Most musicians say that if the fans and sales suggest that another cd is desired, they'll do it. Apparently this wasn't the case with Athiest so what's to change that now?

Same with Lethal. I know they're a Prog fans wet dream but we're talking about 2 LPs and 1 Ep over a 6 year period. Those albums weren't flying off the shelves then so how is this band going to put an ass in a seat in 2007?

I totally mean no disrespect to the guys in the bands, but these bands just can't be a headliner with expectations to sell 500+ tickets. It's just not realistic! To have these bands as openers for the main headliner, well, that's a good idea. Last year, having Eldritch on the bill just solidified it for me personally. I don't know how that translated to ticket sales but there was enough reason to go see the headliners and a "plus one" in my book. This year, it came off like there were no "headliners" to me. I understand that Mystic Prophecy had to pull out and that really sucks beyond belief. I hope that this time we have an early announcement and a backup in case that happens again but it still has to be better than Athiest and Lethal.
 
booB said:
I don't know if you really meant this or not, but if you did, then you're out of your gourd. Atheist singlehandedly CREATED a genre of metal, and Solitude Aeturnus is one of the pre-eminent doom bands, ever.

You can say that the lineup didn't interest you enough to make the trip... but to suggest that it's somehow a bad lineup is just plain ignorant.
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Fixed.
 
Jasonic said:
Ok, here's the question I have though.
Let's take Candlemass as an example, since they have been mentioned.

We all know their new one drops this June.

Would they even commit to something this far in advance? I mean once the album is released, they will obviously get tons of touring offers.

That being said, is it TOO early to even start thinking of bands, given the fact that any particular band might possibly have different plans?

Though I guess if a band is approached with the offer, they could build a tour around it.
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Yeah, it's probably too early for someone like Candlemass, who has a lot of plans brewing...although it's not unheard of to start planning 6-9 months ahead...especially for foreign bands considering US performances.

However, bands who may not be as active, it certainly not too early to ask.
 
That would only draw people from that area, really. I wouldn't fly from Philly to Chicago to see Symphony X when I could drive 30 min to see them. What I love about this fest is its ability to bring talented bands that generally wouldn't tour.
 
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