That's a really good idea dude, and I never thought of that! (having the two guitarists alternate songs but each playing all the rhythm parts per song, I mean)
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That's a really good idea dude, and I never thought of that! (having the two guitarists alternate songs but each playing all the rhythm parts per song, I mean)
KeithReyn
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Ive heard of having one guy play all the rhythm gtr parts before. I think Slayer did that for some records. Atleast thats what Kerry King said. I really think thats stupid though. Who the hell would want to be in a band and not play on their own record? I would never do that to a band. Just my opinion though. I dont wanna be the next big thing. I just wanna make some records with some bands.
Im working with a punk band now. Its an audio trainwreck. Both guitarists are sloppy, the singer sucks, & the drummer isnt perfect. We did day 1 of tracking, and i did some mixes for them and they were thrilled. Im doing the record according to what THEY want, not what I want or anyone else wants. They are firm believers that overproduction kills records. I agree to a point. Just dont tell them I replaced all the drums! haha.
I like to hear music made from the soul. The human aspect is very important to me. It doesnt matter to me if some highschool kid doesnt think its "brootal" enough.
Im working with a punk band now. Its an audio trainwreck. Both guitarists are sloppy, the singer sucks, & the drummer isnt perfect. We did day 1 of tracking, and i did some mixes for them and they were thrilled. Im doing the record according to what THEY want, not what I want or anyone else wants. They are firm believers that overproduction kills records. I agree to a point. Just dont tell them I replaced all the drums! haha.
I like to hear music made from the soul. The human aspect is very important to me. It doesnt matter to me if some highschool kid doesnt think its "brootal" enough.
@Marcus: I've done that on a few records. It works fairly well if the band can't settle on a single guy to do the entire CD. It's the best compromise solution. Certainly miles better than both playing rhythm on one track.
@James: Now there's a tip to go down in the memory bank. Good thing the studio vending machine is loaded with snickers. I love the things.
@Aaron: I might try that. There's some spare 'acoustic' foam lying around which can be cut up and crammed under the strings. Beats buying hair bands anyway.
@Keith: That's the great thing about producing. We all fill a certain niche. You want to represent the band. I want to represent the music. Both approaches have their own place.
@James: Now there's a tip to go down in the memory bank. Good thing the studio vending machine is loaded with snickers. I love the things.
@Aaron: I might try that. There's some spare 'acoustic' foam lying around which can be cut up and crammed under the strings. Beats buying hair bands anyway.
@Keith: That's the great thing about producing. We all fill a certain niche. You want to represent the band. I want to represent the music. Both approaches have their own place.
KeithReyn
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I totally agree dude.
Ya know, maybe my attitude might change after making a buncha albums. I dont work for a studio, im just some guy in the sticks of Pennsylvania who wants to make records. I wish I could work in a studio, but thats just not an option.
I didnt mean any disrespect to anyone.
Ya know, maybe my attitude might change after making a buncha albums. I dont work for a studio, im just some guy in the sticks of Pennsylvania who wants to make records. I wish I could work in a studio, but thats just not an option.
I didnt mean any disrespect to anyone.
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AdamWathan
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Bastards like you are the reasons guys like me and Oz need to keep the studio stocked with mahogany bodied string through guitars!
Yeah, room temperature water is the best thing - too cold and you constrict blood vessels and you'll loose the effect of any warming up you've done, and too hot it just horrible (it can cause issues too, like swelling).
The reason people say not to drink tea is a) because it's hot and b) because most people put milk in it, and lactose makes you phlegmy.
Honey is somewhat counter-intuitive because it is sugary BUT it is proven to soothe you throat, and lots of vocal coaches recommend it. If the singer's throat is fine they shouldn't use it, but if their voice starts getting tired at the end of the day - it should be mixed with lemon juice and a touch of hot water and drank slowly. It can help you get a couple more hours out of them.
As for the Snickers thing - drinking/eating something sugary (chocolate/cola/etc.) 10-15 minutes before you start recording will make your saliva thick and sticky, which can help give screams/grunts that nice 'crackle' - however it will probably reduce the length of time the singer can work in a day, and will wreck any chance of getting clean vocals done.
Ermz - the only thing I can't see you mention is warming up. It's always worth getting guitarists/bassists to start warming up before they have to perform; it can save a lot of dud takes. Also with vocalists, most metal guys have never done a warm up in their life, so it might be worth telling them to have a look around for some exercises.
Steve
Bastards like you are the reasons guys like me and Oz need to keep the studio stocked with mahogany bodied string through guitars!
What do you think we have floyds just cause? We use em for a reason.
Erik Monsonis
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What do you think we have floyds just cause? We use em for a reason.
LOL I dont use it at all for anything, just to goof around
LOL I dont use it at all for anything, just to goof around
Even when I don't use it, after practicing for 6-7 years with one, playing string thrus feel goofy as shit.
When we go into the studio, we're showing up with 4 alder body jacksons all with floyds and two racks full of 80's guitar shit.
Looks like I won't be going to ermz studio
kev
Im guybrush threepwood
What do you think we have floyds just cause? We use em for a reason.
That's why you track rhythms with one guitar, and leads with another!
Fox Mulder
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Some egocentric musicians who don't understand shit written in the checklist would never wanna learn about why such rules and regulations are necessary. People still can't differentiate between 'Mixing' and 'Magic'.
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Fox Mulder
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Indeed. ^_^
Regarding the floyd problem, I apparently don't have a sting-through guitar So what I do is: I dampen the springs using soft loops of rubber band, one loop for each spring - very tightly wrapped. Well, something's better than nothing
Regarding the floyd problem, I apparently don't have a sting-through guitar
So what I do is: I dampen the springs using soft loops of rubber band, one loop for each spring - very tightly wrapped. Well, something's better than nothing
Erik Monsonis
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Yeah, my Caparison does little spring noise on its own. When I filled it's internal cavities lol with cotton and placed EMG pickups foam under the strings in the headstock (before locking nut), it stopped doing ANY noise.
lol with cotton and placed EMG pickups foam under the strings in the headstock (before locking nut), it stopped doing ANY noise.
KeithTidd
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Very good list there ermin, if only bands would actually follow it. I've been lucky to have bands do any 5 of those things. New strings? I wish.
Indeed. ^_^
Regarding the floyd problem, I apparently don't have a sting-through guitar
Isn't stuffing floating trem guitars with random soft materials a common practice?
I remember seeing a trivium studio vid where Matt had TP all over his dean. I've got mine stuffed with foam and hair bands.
That's why you track rhythms with one guitar, and leads with another!
Meh, since we tune only half step down and all of our gutiars are the exact same minus shape (V's, RRs, Kellys) and pickups
And lets just say our rhythms are very alexi/roope inspired? You know, never really rhythm, sometimes lead, squeel, dive, repeat.
Feels good man.
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