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That 's what I was thinking. I don't think there will ever be another super-group because the internet has given people so much exposure to sub genres and niche music.
The end of a metal era...?
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That 's what I was thinking. I don't think there will ever be another super-group because the internet has given people so much exposure to sub genres and niche music.
RemoWilliams
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I've totally been doing the same recently (sans the Zep, Pink Floyd, and SRV). Mainly with Jazz and Fusion. Tons of Wayne Shorter, Dave Holland, Weather Report, Bill Evans, Bill Bruford (loved it when he had Holdsworth), Allan Holdsworth. Also been listening to the more instrumental craziness ala Estradasphere and Secret Chiefs 3. and Tatsuya Yoshida with Satoko Fujii for some AWESOME piano and drums interplay.
I just think that my mind has been over saturated with the sub par metal that has been easier to find than the good stuff. I'm sure next week I'll go right back into the metal, but to be honest, not listening to metal non-stop has opened up some ideas for awesome melodies and instrument interplay. Either way, good metal is still around and will always be. Time just weeds out the weaker stuff and cookie cutters.
thirdtry72
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AGREED!!!!! Coundn't be any more on the same page with you. I'm so sick of the "METAL SCENE" being taken over by bands that buy a JCM2000 and an SG and think that thy are metals next big thing. And a drummer that go's with a 2 tom set-up and play one crappy douple bass line. Not to mention the Screamer with the pretty hair. WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS!!! Bands like this ruined the scene in SLC. To the point that when my band plays a show the kids tell us "yeah the music was cool I guess but you guys need to scream". WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!! You stated it best brother "Without melody it is just noise". So we tried to add pleanty of that factor in our band and I think we pulled it off pretty well. let me know what you think.
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RemoWilliams
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To add to that, when I was playing with my previous band (a mix of technical death metal and some melodic metal), during a pause between songs, one fashioncore kid said, "Come on guys, just me ONE breakdown! PLEASE!" I wanted to choke him, but I did a mock breakdown "Wicca, wicca, chug chug" Yeah, to rant, it seems like nowdays, the kids love the breakdowns, even if they ruin the flow of a song. Just so the kids can do their "Street Fighter" moves. Ok, rant over.
thirdtry72
New Metal Member
Rant away oh great ranter. I think that street fighter is cool and all...and don't get me wrong I enjow a good ol fashioned breakdown every now and then. But you damn kids need to go pick up your change somewhere else!
Yeah, metal is definitely wearing down on me as well...I prefer SINGING over screaming now.
I think it has a lot to do with just growing up and out of it...a new phase. I still love metal, and I definitely check out new bands and some older metal acts as well when they release new music...but I find that when I write music, I can write so much more when I'm trying to write a melody or something catchy instead of a metal riff.
I think it has a lot to do with just growing up and out of it...a new phase. I still love metal, and I definitely check out new bands and some older metal acts as well when they release new music...but I find that when I write music, I can write so much more when I'm trying to write a melody or something catchy instead of a metal riff.
Yeah man. I've come up with some, IMO, pretty cool and ORIGINAL ideas when I'm writing what comes naturally. My metal stuff is all generic shit.
I know exactly what you're saying.
Gnash
Lefty
It's weird, but maybe five years ago, or so, I heard people making fun of Halford, Dickenson, Metal, style whatever. And guitar solos were "out". Now you see those same fucks wearing the fucking Killers album cover on their shirt, and quoting Smith/Murray guitar lines in pop music. It's become a fad to some people, and it's those fake, fad fucks who will get weeded out! But, it is giving real metal bands more exposure, so I don't know, fuck it. Give me a new Exodus record, and I'll be cool.
elmuchoescadawg
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This really does sound like all of us (me included) are getting old. Were just not down with the kids any more. Funny thing is I can remember then I were a lad and was getting into Machinehead and Fear Factory and was getting told it was trendy fad stuff and not real metal by the generation above me.
I think its pretty important that each generation has their own thing that the last one doesnt get. A few years back in the UK when Oasis, Pulp, Blur etc etc were coming out it was really scarey cos we had a whole generation that were into the same sound as their parents. Wheres the progression???
If were talking about versatile classic vocalists I would just like to say two words..........Mike Patton!
Past it and proud!!
I think its pretty important that each generation has their own thing that the last one doesnt get. A few years back in the UK when Oasis, Pulp, Blur etc etc were coming out it was really scarey cos we had a whole generation that were into the same sound as their parents. Wheres the progression???
If were talking about versatile classic vocalists I would just like to say two words..........Mike Patton!
Past it and proud!!
Gross saturation of the market doesn't help. It's easier/cheaper to record and disposable income is easier to come by for loads of kids whether in Europe, the US, or Australia (I've lived in all three). That can be cool, but it creates a sea of mediocre (or worse) musicians who all think they're worth listening to.
There's cookie cutter bands of the cookie cutter bands out there. The vast majority of Generation Metalcore can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned. Severe lack of imagination and/or talent. Unfortunately beat detective and auto-tune can only fix the latter.
They're just the latest crop of poseurs, it was nu-metal ten years ago, and hair metal 10 before that. 7-11's next recruits for the graveyard shift are in waiting. I just feel sorry for you poor sods who have to record these bands listening to that shite all day trying to make a living like everyone else
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Thankfully out of each "generation" a few bands do something interesting and shine. Unfortunately they're usually not the fuckers who make it big.
There's cookie cutter bands of the cookie cutter bands out there. The vast majority of Generation Metalcore can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned. Severe lack of imagination and/or talent. Unfortunately beat detective and auto-tune can only fix the latter.
They're just the latest crop of poseurs, it was nu-metal ten years ago, and hair metal 10 before that. 7-11's next recruits for the graveyard shift are in waiting. I just feel sorry for you poor sods who have to record these bands listening to that shite all day trying to make a living like everyone else
. Thankfully out of each "generation" a few bands do something interesting and shine. Unfortunately they're usually not the fuckers who make it big.
Razorjack
Bass Behemoth
The most original stuff I've heard in years has been Scar Symmetry, which is why I listen to Pitch Black Progress on the way to work every day.
Gnash
Lefty
RV! Where's my cane, and viagra anyway?!
I'll never forget FNM opening for Machine Head and Pantera, and getting booed off the stage. Man, I just wanted to punch people for that shit. Yeah fuck it, I had Angel Dust. Let the kids have their fucking albums too, I guess. It's pretty cool to have "Walk" played at American football games, and "Iron Man" on car commercials now though. 15 years too late.:Smug:I remember the brass band at a UCLA college football game I was at playing "Iron Man" with half the crowd throwing up the horns. When I commented on it to the people I was with, they had no idea it was a Black Sabbath song.
One of those bizarre things you get when you're foreign and in the States.
One of those bizarre things you get when you're foreign and in the States.
Deus.exe
BBQ!!!
Yeah I had a band that didn't do too well because we didn't scream enough, have breakdowns, or whatever...we were too complicated or something...
Heres a video of us playing a song we wrote THAT WEEK. First time playing it...I thought it was a decent performance for writing it that week (could be tighter and a few mistakes...but not bad for a first try.)
A song like this makes me want to still do the band, but we weren't getting anywhere regardless of how many years we put into the band promoting and playing shows...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1373497560441277560&hl=en
Heres a video of us playing a song we wrote THAT WEEK. First time playing it...I thought it was a decent performance for writing it that week (could be tighter and a few mistakes...but not bad for a first try.)
A song like this makes me want to still do the band, but we weren't getting anywhere regardless of how many years we put into the band promoting and playing shows...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1373497560441277560&hl=en
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I'm finding that as I get older, my tastes get more extreme, in my listening habits, but my playing style and desires remain somewhat the same. I like growling vocals, screamed vocals and whatnot, and I think that you do have to have some talent to do it and sound different, just like singers, and I hope that it doesn't stay a fad, personally.
Also, my goal as a musician has pretty much stayed the same...I'll admit it, I want to write simple songs with pop style songwriting. I like verses and choruses and bridges, etc...But, I like the music to be heavy and aggressive, but still within a structure.
And, for me, I think that's why I'm starting to hate a lot of new metal bands. It seems that in the quest to be "teh brootalzzz" they've lost a sense of structure, some melody and there is no HOOK! You can have all these things and still be a killer metal band.
I listen to what seems to be the thing in my area or scene and it's riff after riff, devoid of any sense of anything other than noise. Sure, the technical aspect can be pretty cool, but it grows stale really quick when the only riff or hook you can hang on to lasts 4 measures.
But, the flipside is you have all these At The Gates ripoffs that can be just as annoying.
Also, my goal as a musician has pretty much stayed the same...I'll admit it, I want to write simple songs with pop style songwriting. I like verses and choruses and bridges, etc...But, I like the music to be heavy and aggressive, but still within a structure.
And, for me, I think that's why I'm starting to hate a lot of new metal bands. It seems that in the quest to be "teh brootalzzz" they've lost a sense of structure, some melody and there is no HOOK! You can have all these things and still be a killer metal band.
I listen to what seems to be the thing in my area or scene and it's riff after riff, devoid of any sense of anything other than noise. Sure, the technical aspect can be pretty cool, but it grows stale really quick when the only riff or hook you can hang on to lasts 4 measures.
But, the flipside is you have all these At The Gates ripoffs that can be just as annoying.
Radd
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I took almost a 10 year break from metal after being a die hard for almost 10 years because I was getting bored with it, bands were sucking and I wasn't aware of anything new that was great. I wanted at least a slight change from the usual so I got heavily into grunge and punk towards the end of the grunge movement. It was about 2 or 3 years ago that I came back to metal and have since seen what I've missed, which was a lot! So all of these great bands like In Flames, Nevermore, Soilwork, Mnemic, SYL, COB, Dark Tranquility, Killswitch, Shadows fall, Arch Enemy to name a few are pretty new and fresh to me and I'm loving it all and I'm glad that I'm back!
Genius Gone Insane
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I agree. I think metal is just as addictive as cigarrettes, crack, or the dark side of the Force. It cannot go away.
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