See, you’re sitting her trying to twist my words and then your last line proves my point. You are a bigot. Blackness is not a predictor of violence.
Socioeconomic status is a far greater indicator and anyone who’s ever looked at real statistics could see that crime rates are similar between poor blacks and poor whites.
Hispanics have similar socioeconomic backgrounds as a group relative to blacks. Despite that they are still murdered (and therefore murder due to most murder being intraracial) at a rate far lower than blacks. While you are correct that income correlates significantly with homicide, poor white groups tend to be victimized at a lower rate than even wealthier blacks. This also ignores that the majority of interracial murders are black-on-white, not white-on-black, meaning the low-income whites are victimized by blacks more often than low-income blacks are by whites.
Where’s your statistics? You just can’t say whites kill at a proportional amount to their population size (this is an abursd thing to say, might I add.) without any statistics.
I said they commit spree killings at a rate proportional to their population size; run of the mill homicide, whites commit it below-average. 57% of mass shooters per whatever metric this figure uses (other figures broaden mass shootings to mean where 3 or more are killed, which increases the proportion of blacks defined as mass shooters) are white, which approximately falls in line with the percentage of white people in America.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
I’d be willing to bet that American crime rates from whites are way higher than crime rates in any other first world country. Due to the simple fact that you are most likely to be murdered by someone in your racial group, the idea of black on black crime or white on white crime doesn’t really exist. It’s just crime.
Which kinds of crimes? Gun homicide, yes, white Americans murder at a rate that ranges between 2 to 10 times higher than Europeans. All murder, that gap shrinks a lot. Assault, America falls in line more or less. If you look at the whitest states with, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, etc, they all have homicide rates on only a bit above the average Western European nation. For example,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate
Homicide rates in the whiter states tend to hover between 1 and 2 per 100k, with the notable exception of West Virginia (which is very poor and shitty state). Canada's rate is 1.7 per 100k, France's rate is 1.6 per 100k, Denmark's rate is 1 per 100k, etc. While there are certainly countries that have much lower rates, e.g. Norway and Ireland, it's still a factor of only a few fold. When you factor income inequality differences between white Americans and European Americans, the difference becomes negligible.
I don't understand the "it's just crime" point you're making. Sounds like you're making the argument that I personally shouldn't care about black crime because it will never affect me as long as I live in a white area. I can agree from a purely selfish perspective, but that still sweeps under the rug the reality that American blacks in ghettos live in conditions comparable to the worst parts of Latin America, aka the worst crime zones on the planet. That's a problem, even if people ignore it just because it doesn't make the news.
I was playing devils advocate for a second because I saw that you weren’t acknowledging the recent mass shooters race but yet you are quick to jump to that once someone of color commits a crime. You’ve even suggest that the reason you say things like “black on black crime” is because you believe blackness is a predicator of violence. Because you don’t believe whiteness is, you call the recent crimes committed by white males atheist crimes. I’m not sitting here thinking we should identify and pinpoint the racial groups who commit crimes. I was just pointing out how inconsistent you and UM as a whole were being.
When have I been quick to jump on another over race? I called Trayvon Martin a violent thug because he was one and a lengthy trial basically proved that. Can't think of any other examples on this forum. Generally if there's a mass shooting on a campus, I'll assume it's a disgruntled white or Asian type with no terroristic motive, because that's how it often goes down. Same if there's one at an abortion clinic. Shoot up a church in a white area and I'll assume you're a white atheist. Shoot up a populated street in some affluent area and I'll assume you're a Muslim. To reiterate as I've shown above, whiteness isn't a great predictor of mass shootings as a whole, because they commit mass shootings proportional to their population.
