HamburgerBoy
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How is bleach, rope, and masks found in their apartment not self-explanatory? And it obviously does not require the brothers' testimony; if the brothers denied helping Smollett and the cops found the same items evidence, would it no longer be admissible in your opinion?
You picked far-right over right-wing in reference to people following MSM-tier stories? Holy bias.
No physical object is self-explanatory. Objects don't enjoy the gift of conceptual language. I have bleach, rope, and a ski mask in my apartment. I hate to think I'd be a suspect in a similar investigation.
You previously conflated testimony with explanation. Now you're dodging that and ignoring several different lines of evidence that all relate to each other in different ways supporting the claim that Smollett staged an attack by hiring two men for it. By contrast, there is virtually no available evidence that Trump was complicit in collusion with the Russian government. Keep dodging retard.
I never conflated testimony and explanation. I used them in different ways. Maybe you're conflating them though...
All of which requires explanation. As evidence, it doesn't explain itself. It requires the brothers' testimony.
Ein also implies that his apartment and Smollett's two Nigerian friends' apartment are equivalent places for those items to be found in. You (HBB) said "How is bleach, rope, and masks found in their apartment not self-explanatory?" and his response was to focus only on the objects and not the context they existed in; their apartment.
If the objects were self-explanatory, then they should be all we need to focus on.
Objects found in an apartment belonging to friends of the victim that match the objects claimed to be used in the crime itself are self-explanatory, I think is the point. You can accuse a hardware store owner of doing the crime if the objects exist in a vacuum, I think you're being a bit autistic here because he said they're self-explanatory.
One case is objectively much more simple, the Trump case is vastly more open to speculation whereas the Smollett case isn't and this speaks to one case's almost complete lack of vagueness.
I recall my comment. Any piece of evidence requires explanation. That's why we call it evidence (and not proof). An object cannot testify to its explanation, so it requires the testimony of humans. Alas, rope and bleach can't stand trial.
If the brothers denied helping Smollett, the evidence would still be admissible; but it would lack the testimony that explains why the bleach, rope, and masks are relevant. As I suggested, plenty of people probably have these things in their possession.
If the objects were self-explanatory, then they should be all we need to focus on.
All I'm saying is that we who "know" Smollett to be guilty as choosing to believe something about the evidence.
For sure. Which was why the second opinion I suggested in my original post was "Total exoneration!" and not "Well, seems like there's no collusion, or at least not enough evidence to charge him for it. But obstruction, not so sure..."
I'm accusing those who think Barr's summary is proof of total innocence of being hypocrite's for not assuming that Foxx's decision is proof of total innocence. Ultimately, both sides are making judgments about the evidence. Neither case is "self-explanatory."
I'm accusing those who think Barr's summary is proof of total innocence of being hypocrite's for not assuming that Foxx's decision is proof of total innocence. Ultimately, both sides are making judgments about the evidence. Neither case is "self-explanatory."
There's actually credibility to some degree in continuing to push the Trump/Russia theory, whereas only a total brainlet die-hard IdPol-tard still thinks Smollett dindu nuffin. On that basis alone I have to reject your claim that believing one summary over the other makes you a hypocrite, or whatever weird narrative you're trying to push here.
a hate crime you referenced in the past
Let's be honest here
One was a summary of a massive two-year investigation that recommended no charges for collusion on a basis of lack of evidence. The other was a single act of prosecutory discretion dropping a case that had already resulted in sixteen charges on a basis of substantial evidence.
Testimony is not always available. If Bob murders Joe and there are no witnesses and the only evidence is a knife Bob purchased soaked in Joe's blood, and Bob refuses to admit to the slaying, then there is no testimony beyond the cops that discovered the knife. The cops provide testimony to the knife not being planted, but it's the knife itself that carries the information of blood and location. You need expert opinion to translate the explanation of the knife, e.g. forensic experts running PCR on the blood to match it to Joe, or bank records showing the purchase of the knife by Bob, but the knife itself is its own evidence.
The reason we don't even need to focus as much on the objects is because two people already confessed IN ADDITION TO the plethora of physical evidence which supports their claims. We believe Smollett to be guilty because $130k was spent in investigating the various leads and pieces of evidence, including investigation by many experts and independent sources, all of which point to the whole thing being a hoax.