King Richard
Hello there
I'm jumping in this argument a little late, but I want to make some points.
The basics:
1. The Taliban are pieces of a shit humans and should never be allowed to rule anyone, anywhere. IMO, they should be annihilated.
2. The US should have never taken the position they did initially. The burden of unfucking that place should have been shared amongst the rest of the non-cunty countries.
3. I truly believe the mission was a righteous one, but clearly something that resembled a plan should have been drafted prior to invasion, but I don't think timelines were necessary.
4. Despite there essentially being an endless war since 2001, the lives of Afghanis was infinitely better while the US was squatting than during Taliban rule. Don't get me wrong, compared to other established nations, it was shit. But it was still better while we were there. If you disagree with that, you're delusional. For those of us who actually participated, y'know, boots on the ground, this is an objective fact. Again, the Taliban are pieces of shit.
5. The US doesn't owe the Afghan government or its people a thing. We devoted 20 years and over a trillion dollars to helping them shed tyranny. At some point, you gotta take the training wheels off. It's a damn shame, but I'm not surprised the entire mission was a catastrophic failure though. Ruling that country is nearly impossible based on the geography, the various groups of people, and the constant support and influence from neighboring countries like Pakistan. So yeah, invading a country to prop up what was for all intents and purposes, a shell government, and expecting it to work or benefit anyone was wishful thinking. The only way this would have worked is if we literally took it over, permanently. But that would lead to perpetual war and the end of some ancient civilizations in the process. But it's doable.
Anyway, the point is, the situation has and probably will always be fucked. I feel bad for the truly innocent people and the folks who quite literally gave their lives to help. RIP
The basics:
1. The Taliban are pieces of a shit humans and should never be allowed to rule anyone, anywhere. IMO, they should be annihilated.
2. The US should have never taken the position they did initially. The burden of unfucking that place should have been shared amongst the rest of the non-cunty countries.
3. I truly believe the mission was a righteous one, but clearly something that resembled a plan should have been drafted prior to invasion, but I don't think timelines were necessary.
4. Despite there essentially being an endless war since 2001, the lives of Afghanis was infinitely better while the US was squatting than during Taliban rule. Don't get me wrong, compared to other established nations, it was shit. But it was still better while we were there. If you disagree with that, you're delusional. For those of us who actually participated, y'know, boots on the ground, this is an objective fact. Again, the Taliban are pieces of shit.
5. The US doesn't owe the Afghan government or its people a thing. We devoted 20 years and over a trillion dollars to helping them shed tyranny. At some point, you gotta take the training wheels off. It's a damn shame, but I'm not surprised the entire mission was a catastrophic failure though. Ruling that country is nearly impossible based on the geography, the various groups of people, and the constant support and influence from neighboring countries like Pakistan. So yeah, invading a country to prop up what was for all intents and purposes, a shell government, and expecting it to work or benefit anyone was wishful thinking. The only way this would have worked is if we literally took it over, permanently. But that would lead to perpetual war and the end of some ancient civilizations in the process. But it's doable.
Anyway, the point is, the situation has and probably will always be fucked. I feel bad for the truly innocent people and the folks who quite literally gave their lives to help. RIP