there is definitely a ghost in my house

Isn't it possible to have some sort of heart ischemia or some shit when you are REALLY fucking scared and you could like die or some shit??? I've read that some people have croaked because they were "scared to death." Is this possible? anyone know?
 
I realize that ghost believers claim that not everyone turns into one. Given the amount of people that have died in our existence even a small percentage of that number should out number the living. No? Just asking. Then again I don't believe in a soul either. I call that electricity. Then this all comes back to the belief in God. You know that being/force/whatever that never makes it self known or seen even tho this would be a perfect time given he hasn't hung out since ancient times.
 
There is always a more rational, alternate explanation.

I suffer occasionally (rarely) from something called sleep paralysis. During these episodes, I have felt and experienced things that I could have very easily interpreted as terrifying and unexplainable realities. The first time it happened, I absolutely was not right for the rest of the day. I was literally experiencing symptoms that people often describe in relation to alien abduction, or a visitation from some sort of demonic entities. I'll go into detail if anyone is interested.....
Anyway, I was kept sane by the fact that I am not the sort of person who wants to believe in such things, and thus I came to understand what sleep paralysis was and how very well equipped the human mind is at playing tricks on us. Dirty, dirty tricks.

Anybody I've ever talked to about their own perceived paranormal experiences has always made it clear that they're perfectly willing to accept a paranormal explanation - they don't want to closely examine the possibility that they were tricked, or that they fell victim to some sort of fraudulent display or a hoax. That sort of credulity is somewhat laughable to me. Take my wife for an example. She is downright convinced that ghosts exist and that she witnessed one before. "Her great grandmother visited her one night"

Well, one morning she asked me why I had gone in to the living room a bit earlier. I explained to her that I had been lying there beside her, wide awake, for over an hour, and that I had not been in the living room. She wasn't too hard to convince, and she easily accepted that she must have been dreaming but simply could not clearly differentiate the two states which must have overlapped a bit just as she awoke.

If she had been dreaming of a dead person in the living room, she would have believed that she had seen a ghost, and as she told the story to people over and over throughout the years - the allowance for an alternate explanation would become lesser and lesser until the story became absolutely solid and devoid of any sort of loopholes. To be fair, I believe that people do this unconsciously most of the time.
I've discussed this with her in relation to her ghost story, and I've found that some of the elements that she described to me earlier are already missing. Like that part about her having been asleep and in bed prior to seeing the ghost....:p. When I point this stuff out to her she almost seems offended. Oh well...

When I was younger, it seemed like my friends were always talking about haunted houses and stuff like that. There were deserted houses that we would go to. Every little creak, noise, or "creepy" vibe that they felt while there was considered evidence for the haunting. I think that some people never totally grow out of such behavior.


By the way, if anybody can actually provide evidence for any sort of paranormal phenomenon - they should go immediately and collect on the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge!
 
dont fucking fuck with ghosts and shit, never play with ouija boards!

Its SO dangerous, trust me.

And is it so weird to believe in ghosts?
When someone gets killed without knowing they are did its logical to me that their soul resides on this plane...
 
There is always a more rational, alternate explanation.

I suffer occasionally (rarely) from something called sleep paralysis. During these episodes, I have felt and experienced things that I could have very easily interpreted as terrifying and unexplainable realities. The first time it happened, I absolutely was not right for the rest of the day. I was literally experiencing symptoms that people often describe in relation to alien abduction, or a visitation from some sort of demonic entities. I'll go into detail if anyone is interested.....
Anyway, I was kept sane by the fact that I am not the sort of person who wants to believe in such things, and thus I came to understand what sleep paralysis was and how very well equipped the human mind is at playing tricks on us. Dirty, dirty tricks.

Anybody I've ever talked to about their own perceived paranormal experiences has always made it clear that they're perfectly willing to accept a paranormal explanation - they don't want to closely examine the possibility that they were tricked, or that they fell victim to some sort of fraudulent display or a hoax. That sort of credulity is somewhat laughable to me. Take my wife for an example. She is downright convinced that ghosts exist and that she witnessed one before. "Her great grandmother visited her one night"

Well, one morning she asked me why I had gone in to the living room a bit earlier. I explained to her that I had been lying there beside her, wide awake, for over an hour, and that I had not been in the living room. She wasn't too hard to convince, and she easily accepted that she must have been dreaming but simply could not clearly differentiate the two states which must have overlapped a bit just as she awoke.

If she had been dreaming of a dead person in the living room, she would have believed that she had seen a ghost, and as she told the story to people over and over throughout the years - the allowance for an alternate explanation would become lesser and lesser until the story became absolutely solid and devoid of any sort of loopholes. To be fair, I believe that people do this unconsciously most of the time.
I've discussed this with her in relation to her ghost story, and I've found that some of the elements that she described to me earlier are already missing. Like that part about her having been asleep and in bed prior to seeing the ghost....:p. When I point this stuff out to her she almost seems offended. Oh well...

When I was younger, it seemed like my friends were always talking about haunted houses and stuff like that. There were deserted houses that we would go to. Every little creak, noise, or "creepy" vibe that they felt while there was considered evidence for the haunting. I think that some people never totally grow out of such behavior.


By the way, if anybody can actually provide evidence for any sort of paranormal phenomenon - they should go immediately and collect on the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge!



DO you guys want me to make a topic about this?

cause you are the third guy i saw talking about it, and i know A LOT about this, so if you want to know what there is to know, and you might wanna check out some other topics in the off topic tavern(already answered a few), PM me
 
dont fucking fuck with ghosts and shit, never play with ouija boards!

Its SO dangerous, trust me.

And is it so weird to believe in ghosts?
When someone gets killed without knowing they are did its logical to me that their soul resides on this plane...

Forgive me, but you sound like a nine year old girl.

Before accepting your last statement about the logic of ghosts, one would have to believe that the idea of a soul was in itself sound and logical. To get there you would need some sort of evidence beyond wishful thinking. Building unfounded superstitions on top of irrational wish-thinking is sort of a double whammy.


DO you guys want me to make a topic about this?

cause you are the third guy i saw talking about it, and i know A LOT about this, so if you want to know what there is to know, and you might wanna check out some other topics in the off topic tavern(already answered a few), PM me

How is it possible that you know "alot" about ghosts?
Regardless, yes, I want to know everything that you feel you know on the subject. If you want to start another topic, I will participate.
 
Ghosts/God/Allah/Santa Claus/The Easter Bunny/Zeus/Talking snakes/Drummers that can keep a steady beat.

It's all the same bullshit.


Smarten up guys!
 
I was all alone at night traveling down a long hill and I saw a bicycle ghost. The spinning wheels were glowing. I thought maybe it was just a strange reflection but it was fucking eerie. I didn't think too much about it. Two weeks after that I had mentioned it to some friends and they told me that a bicyclist was killed on that hill when struck by a car. Sorry no pics and it did happen.
 
Hold on a minute.....
Originally Posted by OzNimbus View Post
Ghosts/God/Allah/Santa Claus/The Easter Bunny/Zeus/Talking snakes/Drummers that can keep a steady beat.

Lol! What's all this drummer-bashing about keeping a beat? You must have had too many bad experiences with drummers haha.

Back to the topic...ghosts....hmmm....photos aren't exactly useful with all the digital editing and stuff so I guess one has to see it to believe it, and as MH28 pointed out, the mind can play tricks on us in ways we can't even comprehend sometimes. Ironic since it is that very same mind which makes us comprehend that is playing the tricks....but anyway, unless there's solid evidence, its a mystery.
 
Thats always the case. What can be photographed? I'm asking here.. Can the eye see what a photograph can not capture? Beyond the details?


No, but the mind can.

Just as it often does when you're under the influence of drugs, when you're sleep deprived, when your vision is blurry, when it's foggy or dark outside, when a peripheral reflection or shadow moves unexpectedly, when the wind blows, when a structure settles, when somebody particularly crafty has completely bamboozled you or any other of a myriad of scenarios in which a rational explanation could be easily achieved if people were only willing to suspend their infatuation with pseudoscience (and all the other garbage that takes up more space in our brains than it should) long enough to find it.

That was some sentence!

Unfortunately, the reality behind an unusual experience is usually just not as fascinating and it makes for a lame story. It makes lame TV and lame books. Just like people being positively gone when they're dead isn't a very heart warming notion, nobody wants to figure out what that crazy thing was that they saw - they'd rather go on believing that it was a paranormal experience because paranormal experiences are fucking awesome!

I prefer to be awestruck by the power and complexity of the human mind and the seemingly transcendant properties of our consciousness rather than waste my wonder on patent bullshit. It is a little harder to do however.....:)
 
Dude, read my post I linked to earlier in this thread, there's really nothing else I can say. I don't claim its "ghosts" in the literal sense, just something supernatural.