Thoughts on this OSP guitar?

[Loren Littlejohn]

Man if we are talking cheap then this is the way to go:

OSP Guitar---> Used toneport UX2 (seen these go for $130 or so)--->reaper

And a pair of headphones.

There ya go complete recording solution for maybe $150-$170 (since he already has the guitar)

 

[-J-]

even cheaper: behringer sansamp clone ($30) and reaper. then use SIR with some impluses and/or Free Amp 2. would getcha by for awhile.

 

[Metaltastic]

Hmm, it's always good to have some kind of amp, though, for the sake of possibly *gasp* playing with other people! And I have a Roland Cube 30 (the 30 watt version, obviously), which is fucking tits, so I second the cube recommendation

 

[JBroll]

I'd just go for the 12", 60-watt version because upgrading the speaker can make quite a difference.

Jeff

 

[Ericlingus]

I would get a behringer vamp2 over the pod 2.0. Does metal tones way better I think. But if I were you and wanted to spend as little as possible get a toneport ux2. That'll work an audio interface,mic pre and amp modeller. In addidtion to guitar suite, get the wagner sharp guitar preamp. It's another good free amp modeler.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Well the reason I recomended the UX2 is the fallowing:

It's got a modeler inside (pretty much a really dumbed down pod xt)
If he decides to mess around with micing up an amp he can

 

[Radd]

EDIT:
Uh oh, didn't read the whole thread, so maybe I should clarify a bit. Guitar amplifier emulation software (GuitarSuite, Amplitube etc.) takes the direct signal from your guitar, and preferably you'd need a DI box to connect your axe to the sound card, even though it's possible to just connect one end of the instrument cable to the guitar and the other (with a proper adapter) to the line in of your soundcard. Then again, now that I see your situation, I completely agree with Radd and doc, POD or Toneport would be your safest bet. They're easy to use and very versatile, and lots of people here use them. Sorry if I confused you with all the Guitarsuite mumbling, should've read the whole thread before posting

 

[Radd]

I have a Roland Cube 30 (the 30 watt version, obviously), which is fucking tits, so I second the cube recommendation

Got clips?

 

[Radd]

I'd just go for the 12", 60-watt version because upgrading the speaker can make quite a difference.

Jeff

Like putting a Celestian Vintage 30 in it?

 

[JBroll]

Ahem... there are... well, many speakers that would... fuck yes, Vintage 30.

Jeff

 

[Radd]

Ahem... there are... well, many speakers that would... fuck yes, Vintage 30.

Jeff

 

[Brakk]

Im going through the phone book now and calling around for a Roland Cube 60 and the other items on the list. Im getting it for Christmas and my parents are clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff, so they of course said "Whats the difference between a Roland and those big Fender amps" when we saw that the closest guitar place didn't have Rolands. What should I say is the difference?

.. they only had Peavys Crates and Fenders. I still want a Roland though so I will keep looking. My parents don't want to get one off of ebay because they are scared that it would mess up and we couldn't have a warranty or something, is this a serious danger or issue that could come up?

 

[JBroll]

The differences are price and versatility. For three hundred you could probably track down a Blues Jr., but not anything that's suitable for metal. Fender never really made any worthwhile efforts in hard rock/metal; Roland (Roland and Boss are attached at the hip, if you didn't know that already) designed the Cube series to be very versatile and revolve around doing a number of sounds very well.

If you can get your hands on a Peavey 5150 combo at a decent price, that's worth looking into. Fenders aren't doing what you want. Crates... take fucking work. I have a Crate and love it, but unless you try one out for a while and decide that you have to have it, you're probably going to wish you had gone for something else.

Plenty of legitimate stores have fronts up on eBay for price and convenience reasons. Also, Boss/Roland equipment is built to double as construction equipment, so don't worry too much about murdering one. However, you're not too likely to get huge price advantages on these, as they don't wind up being put up for sale often, so Musician's Friend could be the place to look.

Jeff

 

[Metaltastic]

Yep, any Peavey solid-state (meaning, non-tube) is AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL, same with Fender (for metal), and have your parents allay their fears of ebay by looking at the feedback rating of the seller

 

[Radd]

Yeah, Listen to Jeff.
Fenders are not metal.
5150 combo would be great but still expensive.
Musicians Friend are reputable and reliable.
Or try to have some place order what you want.
Crates are generally looked down upon but it sounds like it may be the best amp that store has for metal. I still wouldn't get one though.

Ebay is usually great. You just have to be aware of the sellers positive and negative feedback ratings and judge for yourself how safe it could be. If they have at least say 100 positives and 0 negatives, chances are the transaction will go as smooth as butter but your parents are right to be concerned because you never know, anything could happen.

On a side note this site is great for beginners. Not specificaly metal related. Its an all around guide for recording and gear. Bookmark it. Reference it often and learn, learn, learn.
Click the "guide" link , top left and choose from list on left side.
http://www.tweakheadz.com/

 

[-J-]

Yep, any Peavey solid-state (meaning, non-tube) is AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL, same with Fender (for metal), and have your parents allay their fears of ebay by looking at the feedback rating of the seller

for some reason, I liked the newer Peavey bandit (Bandit II I think) I played awhile back. I also dug Randall's hybrid. I'm kinda weird though, I can use about any amp and be happy, except maybe a Gorilla.

 

[Exocaster]

Yep, any Peavey solid-state (meaning, non-tube) is AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL, same with Fender (for metal), and have your parents allay their fears of ebay by looking at the feedback rating of the seller

I've heard the Peavey XXL is a fine solid state head for high gain tones. I've heard it recommended as a backup for guys running 5150s/6505s and Triple Xs a number of times.

SS Fender is definitely a poor choice, though. Tube Fenders are another story entirely, with the Supersonic and Prosonic being more than capable of delivering quality high gain tones. I've heard some crushing metal tones coming from the old Prosonic heads. But I digress.

 

[Brakk]

Thanks guys, and I have a question that probably sounds dumb. Can the Shure sm57 mic plug directly into my computer?

 

[JBroll]

Do you mean the SM57?

You could plug it in... but given your current setup don't expect anything great. That's what the recommended interfaces are for - the 2496, the Fast Track... whatever. Your recording interface will need replacement, but you should be able to get some signal through the sound card. Now, you might need to turn on the +20dB boost in the Audio Properties in your computer, and you may need to crank the input gain in your DAW, but something will come through.

Jeff

 

[Brakk]

Thanks, and I recorded a clip called "sm7 pedal" on www.myspace.com/naragrum to ask on here if it sounds better with that pedal