Track lengths on Edge Of Sanity's "Crimson II"?

[Aaron A.]

Would someone mind posting the track lengths for all of the songs on "Crimson II"? I'm definitely going to purchase it soon, but I'm curious. I would really apprecaite it. Thanks!

"Crimson II"
1. The Forbidden Worlds
2. Incantation
3. Passage Of Time
4. The Silent Threat
5. Achilles Heel
6. Covenant Of Souls
7. Face To Face
8. Disintegration
9. Aftermath

 

[scorpian007]

My version is 40 something tracks on the actual CD itself, so its hard to tell how long each of them are

 

[Aaron A.]

My version is 40 something tracks on the actual CD itself, so its hard to tell how long each of them are

This makes me very sad. Thanks for responding, at least!

 

[Jingjang]

1. The Forbidden Worlds 1:39
2. Incantation 5:59
3. Passage Of Time 5:27
4. The Silent Threat 3:17
5. Achilles Heel 2:27
6. Covenant Of Souls 7:30
7. Face To Face 3:26
8. Disintegration 3:17
9. Aftermath 5:25

There you go.

 

[min]

Anyway it is only a long song, really don't care if there are nine tracks or fourtyfour.

 

[AlexGuinness]

I think it is supposed to be viewed as one constant piece in the same way that Crimson was. I think in total it is about 45 minutes, but split down on the CD into about 40 sections.

I have always been of the opinion that the tracklist was a section of movements that corresponds with the lyrics (although I must admit that I don't take full advantage of things like this and actually read the lyrics - too many CDs, not enough time to read booklets).

I don't think that the movements actually correspond with the tracks though. I believe Dan was partially responsible for the system by which many promos are now issued (splitting tracks up into many mini tracks to make it harder to post on the internet for cheapskate downloading).

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Dan came up with this system in the legendary Abbey Road studios, although I cannot clearly remember.

Perhaps someone that has taken the time to familiarise themselves with the story would be able to comment, but I don't think that the tracks and times posted above are necessarily accurate...

 

[min]

I don't think that the movements actually correspond with the tracks though. I believe Dan was partially responsible for the system by which many promos are now issued (splitting tracks up into many mini tracks to make it harder to post on the internet for cheapskate downloading).

I think that you are probably right, anyway these are the tracks on the cd, at least these are the lenght of the tracks on the cd. Doesn't Black Mark want not to be a one-long-song record and asked Dan to cut the thing in tracks?

 

[AlexGuinness]

Only just noticed your response, you must have posted it whist I was writing mine (distracted by buying a load of CDs from eBay ).

Certainly if I play mine through the PC, it just comes up with the first few tracks corresponding to the tracklist followed by many "Untitled" ones.

 

[LoboUivante]

still haven't got Crimson II, is it worth it?

 

[min]

Certainly if I play mine through the PC, it just comes up with the first few tracks corresponding to the tracklist followed by many "Untitled" ones.

the program I use gets the titles from http://www.freedb.org, this is the entry for Crimson II:

http://www.freedb.org/freedb_search_fmt.php?cat=rock&id=4b0a142c

Anybody can upload tracklists I guess, so maybe someone came with these tracklist for Crimson II, but it hasn't to be accurate.

 

[cenzu]

Just like Crimson, Crimson II is one 43minute song.
I think it was because of the record company Dan made the track index for the cd.
And the 44 "tracks" it's splitted into are a kind of copy protection.

But Crimson II is regardless of this still only one epic track!

 

[Naglfar]

Just like Crimson, Crimson II is one 43minute song.
I think it was because of the record company Dan made the track index for the cd.
And the 44 "tracks" it's splitted into are a kind of copy protection.

But Crimson II is regardless of this still only one epic track!

Dan doesn't care about copy protection, he's said as much on many occasions, if I can recall correctly.

He had it made that way so you could flip to your favorite parts faster, instead of having to forward up (maybe Dan wasn't into the iTunes in 2002-2003?)

 

[cenzu]

Dan doesn't care about copy protection, he's said as much on many occasions, if I can recall correctly.

He had it made that way so you could flip to your favorite parts faster, instead of having to forward up (maybe Dan wasn't into the iTunes in 2002-2003?)

check this one out
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134312

 

[Naglfar]

check this one out
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134312

hahaha

i stand corrected

but i'm 99% sure dan has said he doesn't care if people buy his stuff so long as more people listen to it

i mean, he did help the guy put it into one song, right?

 

[Naglfar]

and wow, that french guy was an asshole

i love the part where he's like "IM DOING MY PHD, I CANNOT SPEND 5 MINUTES MAKING THIS SONG ONE FILE"

hehe

 

[cenzu]

Yeah!

well atleast the guy had bought the album so that would explain Dan helping him out...
well all the saim...actually I recall also you being right...
the "He had it made that way so you could flip to your favorite parts faster, instead of having to forward up"

so there are no winners

 

[Naglfar]

Yeah!

well atleast the guy had bought the album so that would explain Dan helping him out...
well all the saim...actually I recall also you being right...
the "He had it made that way so you could flip to your favorite parts faster, instead of having to forward up"

so there are no winners

or rather, we both win!!! two rights don't make a wrong!

 

[cenzu]

or rather, we both win!!! two rights don't make a wrong!

very true!
we rule!

 

[Aaron A.]

I saw that my thread received 17 replies, and was like... "Damn, some intriguing conversation must've started." And... it did! I'm going to buy the album as soon as I can, but I was just curious as to how long the songs were. I don't really care about how long the songs are, as it's really just one song split into tracks. Thanks for everyone's input! Take care.

 

[mylovedenied]

Odd. When I soundforged everything together, it came to 38:31.

I wonder what I'm missing. (Damn you Vin, for stealing my copy, you heartless bastard).