Tricks to getting Beefy/thick sound?

[vejichan]

I'm using reaper with TSE x50 and LECAB 2(catharsis spreshigh)
HOw do you double track/triple track to get a big/meaty/thick sound?
what is the correct way of doing this? thanks

 

[Mm1066]

I'm using reaper with TSE x50 and LECAB 2(catharsis spreshigh)
HOw do you double track/triple track to get a big/meaty/thick sound?
what is the correct way of doing this? thanks

Double track = record the same part twice, pan hard left and hard right.

Triple track = record the same part three times, one left, one right, and one in the centre. I think Metallica used to do this, on the black album at least.

 

[Tommy Evans]

You can also try quad tracking. Two takes panned hard left/right then another two takes panned between 50-80 left/right.

 

[ForHerDeadEyes]

I'm using reaper with TSE x50 and LECAB 2(catharsis spreshigh)
HOw do you double track/triple track to get a big/meaty/thick sound?
what is the correct way of doing this? thanks

There is no correct way..
So experiment!

I don't remember where I read it, but.. you should get a meaty/thick sound with one guitar track.. if you want a wider sound, then you double track..
I've found this to be a good approach..
You could quadtrack to try and make the first two meatier..
But like I said.. there is no correct way..

 

[Robert W]

Have you tried different cab combinations? I've found that the Red Wirez Marshall sims, the one they offer for free, to be a great "root" sound to build on, if you're looking for a thick, saturated sounding rhythms.

 

[vejichan]

which particular redwirez marshall impulse? 1 inch/sm57/cone + 1inch/sm57/cap?
which ones do you use?

 

[sawtooth]

There is no correct way..
So experiment!

I don't remember where I read it, but.. you should get a meaty/thick sound with one guitar track.. if you want a wider sound, then you double track..
I've found this to be a good approach..
You could quadtrack to try and make the first two meatier..
But like I said.. there is no correct way..

And what do you do with that one mono guitar track? You need to double track at a minimum.

 

[Robert W]

Marshall 1960A-G12Ms TAB Funkenwerk SM57 Cone and Cap combinations. Mixing these with some Orange 4X12s will give a good chunky rhythm tone.

 

[ArthurD]

There is no correct way..
I don't remember where I read it, but.. you should get a meaty/thick sound with one guitar track.. if you want a wider sound, then you double track..

I read it @ SOS, AC/DC Black Ice recordings.
I Think this is the best way to get the tone.
Although, If you are going to QUAD i suggest using less gain than you would double.

 

[ForHerDeadEyes]

And what do you do with that one mono guitar track? You need to double track at a minimum.

Well, no.. you don't need to double track..
It's a standard though..
For example the soundtrack to "Command & Conquer" is mono.. still sounds good..

The point I was trying to make is that you don't doubletrack to make it fat..
Like, if you record drums, you try to get a good snare sound from the start..
Same with guitar..
Want a fat sound..? get it with single guitartrack..
THEN, you can start thinking about adding another track.. or 3 or 50..

 

[ForHerDeadEyes]

I read it @ SOS, AC/DC Black Ice recordings.
I Think this is the best way to get the tone.
Although, If you are going to QUAD i suggest using less gain than you would double.

Maybe that's were it was..
Yeah, the more tracks you add, the less gain you give them..

 

[Firaxis]

bass guitar!

 

[Joshnano]

Do this:

Record 3 takes, pan them hard left

Record another 3 takes, pan them hard right

Now, make another track but keep it panned in the center and record another take OR
You could use this track as a thickener and accent certain notes and beats in that riff.

This is a great way to record your guitar to get that wall of sound type of sound. Metallica used this method on the Black Album.

 

[arv_foh]

bass guitar!

+1

the beef comes from a sick bass tone, not the guitars

 

[Notuern]

.. My god, can some of you guys just shut the fuck up and not give pointers when you clearly don't know what you are talking about(Targeted at some posters in this thread.)?

Just do double tracking, it will be enough for you at the time(Since you don't seem to acquainted with the world of recording.).
Pan the tracks somewhere between 70/70 to 100/100(left/right) for the best results.
Turn down the gain as much as you can without it feeling awkward, then lower it some more.

Then as others already said, when mixing you generally cut all low end from the guitars anyways.. this means that all the low end and much of the beef comes from the bass track(Which to me is the hardest part to get right.).

As i said, start out with dual tracking.. when you get used to it you can go over to quad tracking.

 

[hoehlentroll]

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[vejichan]

thanks for all the helpful advice. But being a true beginner..
i'm using reaper. What is the correct way to double track guitar parts?
are there any video tutorials? i'm not 100% sure i'm doing it correctly.
Thanks for all the responses.

 

[AndrewB]

thanks for all the helpful advice. But being a true beginner..
i'm using reaper. What is the correct way to double track guitar parts?
are there any video tutorials? i'm not 100% sure i'm doing it correctly.
Thanks for all the responses.

You record the same part twice (TIGHTLY I might add). Then, you pan one take hard left, and the other take hard right.

 

[Damage, Inc.]

You record the same part twice (TIGHTLY I might add). Then, you pan one take hard left, and the other take hard right.

Yup. Gotta have the doubles really tight or it doesn't work. I like to quad, but I always use at least two different tones. For example, use one that's really heavy and scooped, that will give you the thickness. Then use one with far less distortion, and roll back the treble and bass. This one will give you transients and mids. Mix to taste.

 

[vejichan]

You record the same part twice (TIGHTLY I might add). Then, you pan one take hard left, and the other take hard right.

Ok.. let me get this correctly.
I record two tracks and on one track i slide the pan bar all the way to the right
and the other track all the way to the left on the pan bar?
and try to get the volume levels the same/equal?

is it recommended to use different amps/mics etc?
thanks for all the great responses.