Tried out dual micing for the first time (Bugera 333, HB 2x12" V30, Röde M3, SM57)

[ahjteam]

Looks like I really have to start dual micing more often, as this was for the first time in a quite a while I actually got a non fizzy sounding tone out of the Bugera that I liked.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/ahjteam/ahjteam_accell-bugera.mp3

single gtr: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/ahjteam/ahjteam_accell-bugera_gtr.mp3

The string sound heard in the gtr only clip is actually me playing next to the amp, as the volume of the amp wasn't super loud so it bled to the mic.

 

[nwright]

not digging this tone at all, to be honest. I rarely like off axis mic tones, and this clip doesn't change that.

Sounds too boxy for me.

 

[ahjteam]

not digging this tone at all, to be honest. I rarely like off axis mic tones, and this clip doesn't change that.

Sounds too boxy for me.

I reamped it with the mic straight on pointing towards where the the cap and cone meet, don't like it personally.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/ahjteam/ahjteam_accell-bugera_02.mp3

 

[nwright]

the mics still look off axis, as in not perpendicular to the flat "face" of the cab.

 

[ahjteam]

the mics still look off axis, as in not perpendicular to the flat "face" of the cab.

it's just the picture, it's in straight angle towards to the cabinet. unless you are talking about the sm57

 

[nwright]

Yeah I was looking at both. Personally I like this tone better, it doesn't sound so scooped. But, it has more fizz and grain on top.

WHat about putting the 57 on axis and the 201 (if that's what it is) off?

 

[ahjteam]

i'll try it tomorrow, it's now like 10pm

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Sound interesting

 

[ScootBaloo]

I like your second clip better, I think having some fizz is OK if it suits the song which it does in your song.

For my tastes, I would like to hear more lows in the SM57. I assume you are mixing the condensor mike
with equal level as the dynamic mike so I am suggesting a high pass from 50Hz for the SM57 and a high
pass from 100Hz for the M3.

 

[Calippo Tecks]

Those pictures look photoshopped, funny how real pictures look like fake ones.
I think it's because of the hard shadow above the mics.
(Looks to me like the mics+micstand are copy pasted in this pics)

I like the second one better as well but I don't really like the mid tones in both of them.
Did u cut out some low mids in the 400-500 range?
If so I'd try to cut out a little bit higher, it should sound a bit darker around 600-700.

 

[ahjteam]

Those pictures look photoshopped, funny how real pictures look like fake ones.

only thing I did was size them down to 640x480, nothing else

 

[ahjteam]

Here is one where I tried both mics pointing straight at the part where cone and cap meets, don't like this one either to be honest. I still like the first clip the most as it has a bit more clarity and less saturation.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/ahjteam/ahjteam_accell-bugera_03.mp3

 

[ahjteam]

fucking shit, now I noticed that there is a "damping" switch on the back of the amp... made a drastic difference to the tone. Might re-do the clip tomorrow, now my ears are too shot.

 

[ahjteam]

Alright, tried out with the last variant available; M3 off axis, SM57 on axis. Didn't like it. I tried with another preamp (Marshall Mode Four crunch channel) and then I kinda dug it. I don't like the poweramp section sound of the MF350 tho, but because the power section is solid state I can just turn off the master section and just go from the FX loop to the clean channel on the 333 and then I liked it more. Not the most metal sound in the world, but works for this "motorcycle rock" kinda nicely. There was a minor ground loop problem, but don't let it distract you too much.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338211/ahjteam/ahjteam_accell-bugera_05.mp3

 

[FF666]

I like the first capture, off axis.
Do what you like and not what others tell you.

 

[lolzgreg]

If your test with the mode four wasn't as scooped, it would be the best one.

 

[ChrisTanakaCanwell]

Yeah actually I liked the first one too