Triple REC settings

[TTOS]

Here's the problem, I'm not getting a killer sound from my guitarist's triple rec. I expect most of you guitarist's would not take too keenly to their drummer changing their sound for recording purposes. Anyway, the time has come. I'm using a pretty new SM57 on axis with a 1960 slant. I can also get my hands on a peavy xxx cab as well if needed. I know sounds are very individual but has anyone got or knows a link where I could find some dial settings that I could try out? I'm really looking for a good crunchy tight sound. Not the wasp in a jam jar that I'm getting now.

 

[NickL]

Andy posted the Dead Heart In A Dead World dual rec settings a long time ago. Im sure somebody has them saved somewhere.

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

Someone does.

"Custom Built 7 String Guitar loaded with EMG 707 pickups. The guitars were routed into a Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer that was used as a signal boost. The settings on the TS-9 were:

Drive: 9 O'Clock
Tone: 10 O'Clock
Level: 12 O'Clock

This was fed into the amp that was used on all of the rhythm and leads. The amp used was a Mesa Boogie (2 Channel) Dual Rectifier that was straight from the box. The Mesa Recto was routed into a Marshall 1960B 4X12 Cab with the stock 75 Celestions they have. Settings on the Mesa Recto were:

Silicon Diode Setting
Bold Setting
Red (Modern) Channel
Treble: 11.30
Mids: 10 O'Clock
Bass: 11.30
Gain: 12:30
Presence: 12.30
Master: 10 O'Clock

There were 4 tracks of rhythm, with 2 tracks being panned 100% left and right, and the other set being panned 80% left and right. There was no compression, limiting, etc…only a slight touch of EQ used. Two Shure SM-57's were used for recording, one on the center of the cone about an inch away. This was the approximate's denoted by Andy Sneap previously."

 

[Matt Crooks]

The key to keeping it from sounding like a "wasp in a jam jar" is to keep the gain down as low as possible. Have the guitarist turn down the gain as low as he's comfortrable, then turn it down some more. 12:00-12:30 is more than enough on a recto.

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

And TURN IT LOUD !!!

 

[XtremeParanoia]

the position of the mic makes a big difference in the high end of a guitar signal too. move the mic around until you find a spot that smoothes the sound out some. This is after you've gotten a good sound out of the amp and cab in the first place

 

[Keessi]

And TURN IT LOUD !!!

WRONG. ON ELEVEN.

 

[musickey]

Someone does.

"Custom Built 7 String Guitar loaded with EMG 707 pickups. The guitars were routed into a Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer that was used as a signal boost. The settings on the TS-9 were:

Drive: 9 O'Clock
Tone: 10 O'Clock
Level: 12 O'Clock

This was fed into the amp that was used on all of the rhythm and leads. The amp used was a Mesa Boogie (2 Channel) Dual Rectifier that was straight from the box. The Mesa Recto was routed into a Marshall 1960B 4X12 Cab with the stock 75 Celestions they have. Settings on the Mesa Recto were:

Silicon Diode Setting
Bold Setting
Red (Modern) Channel
Treble: 11.30
Mids: 10 O'Clock
Bass: 11.30
Gain: 12:30
Presence: 12.30
Master: 10 O'Clock

There were 4 tracks of rhythm, with 2 tracks being panned 100% left and right, and the other set being panned 80% left and right. There was no compression, limiting, etc…only a slight touch of EQ used. Two Shure SM-57's were used for recording, one on the center of the cone about an inch away. This was the approximate's denoted by Andy Sneap previously."

Do you have any idea if it was a moded TS9?

 

[BrettT]

You're not going to get a tight sound running 6L6's in it without a boost of some sort. I've retubed my Recto with JJ EL34L's and it tightened the amp up drastically. I still use my boost pedal on the vintage channel but on Modern it's tight as hell without any boost. The EL34s also got rid of the dreaded buzziness.

Listen to the latest Strapping Young Lad album for the sound of Rectos with EL34s without any boost pedals of any sort. TIGHT!

 

[Hewy80]

The key to keeping it from sounding like a "wasp in a jam jar" is to keep the gain down as low as possible. Have the guitarist turn down the gain as low as he's comfortrable, then turn it down some more. 12:00-12:30 is more than enough on a recto.

+1

rectos def dont need gain up more than 12:00... make sure the master is turned up tho... you need to drive those tubes.

 

[flytrapx]

You're not going to get a tight sound running 6L6's in it without a boost of some sort. I've retubed my Recto with JJ EL34L's and it tightened the amp up drastically. I still use my boost pedal on the vintage channel but on Modern it's tight as hell without any boost. The EL34s also got rid of the dreaded buzziness.

Listen to the latest Strapping Young Lad album for the sound of Rectos with EL34s without any boost pedals of any sort. TIGHT!

I think the SYL album is boosted recs I've seen it mentioned somewhere in their gear list.

The only amps I've heard that sound tight without a boost are Framus Cobra and Engl SE.

 

[BrettT]

I think the SYL album is boosted recs I've seen it mentioned somewhere in their gear list.

The only amps I've heard that sound tight without a boost are Framus Cobra and Engl SE.

Nope...no boosts. Jed posted his amp settings on the SYL board...he uses the Orange channel and Devin uses the Red. Guitar straight into amp.

Here's Jed's words:

"First of all, great move on dropping EL 34s into your head! It really makes a difference. As for my my Mesa settings, I use the middle, or Orange channel. It is a little warmer and compliments the EL 34s very nicely. I use the tube Rectifier, not the solid state one. And I have the spongy/bold switch on bold.
On to the front...Remember, Orange channel!
Presence 6
Bass 4
Master 3
Middle 2
Gain 6
Treble 7
Hope that helps!
JS"