vanilla sky

rahvin said:
of course. this thread is my own, you understand! my own! *shakes walking stick with a knob on the end* (...) the message wasn't exactly: i want a report on that film on my desk by thursday morning.


Yeah, that's pretty clear, I just unfolded a bit of courtesy by bringing back the chance of speaking about something we can ponder about without having to rent dozens of spanish movies. But don't hit me with that stick, you, old gentleman. :D Thursday morning? Can I do it... let's say... right now?

I'll have to watch the movie once again to refresh my memory and know who's that Ellie, I barely remember the english names. But I would add some points to think about, taking what I think is the matter on this thread and the reason that moved you, my italian friend, to start this thread.

And it is the human part of the movie and its weakness (aside from the confusing mix of images and plot lines) what seeds some fears in us... or maybe simply stirs them. The image of the rich man who succeed in almost everything in life without moving a single finger, thanks to the inherited fortune and his good-looking appearance that are valuable factors on the modern society. Maybe we can dive into this kind of mind, pointing out certain inconveniences, but this is not what I'm going to put under the light, right now. It's specially touching how a sudden car-accident makes change everything you thought was steadily and inherently part of you, things that seemed to define you in the past and, in a second, are no longer part of your life and leave you in the cold. Think it is the point Rahvin mentioned as "scary", and personally I find that human aspect so interesting. Of course, this is reforced with the unreal reality that the main character lives in, and a nightmare of changing girls.

I've got the movie around here, I'll try to watch it again.


|ngenius (In a rush, I'll try to specify laterrrr!)
 
hehe this film sounds like me :)

i thought it was pretty interesting. i like things that confuse me at first. so many films these days are just so patronising that i find it a refreshing change when a big budget film does that.
 
I rented it a couple of months ago.. it made me sad.. they could've made is so much better. It starts out interesting..

*SPOILER-SPOILER-SPOILER*


I like the part and when he meets Penelope.. the car-crash is awesome and Cameron plays great, IMO. I love the dreamy parts just after the crash and stuff.. it's.. just nice! Then it all goes to hell, unfortunately.
The story is dull as shite in the second half. like.. Matrix meets something very boring. They could've turned it into a cool paranoia-movie instead of explaining everything (hollywood-style) to avoid any cool mysterious ending they could've achieved if they'd wanted to. Ugh. Annoying movie. :Smug:
 
Lakestream said:
Matrix meets something very boring. They could've turned it into a cool paranoia-movie instead of explaining everything (hollywood-style) to avoid any cool mysterious ending they could've achieved if they'd wanted to. Ugh. Annoying movie. :Smug:

Hahah, that is very good description, Matrix meets something very
boring, have to remember that ;)

But I totally agree, that whole "you were in an accident and now you
are in stasis" crap was so typical and cheesy.
At least EWS leaves it all open, I suggest to everyone to see it :)
oh and Memento, tho that doesn't leave anything open, just a good
movie :)
 
thanks for the opinion lakestream. i pretty much agree with it: in the second half they should have gone for some brainy explanation instead of the whole "dream" stuff. the only slightly interesting twist is that the recollection of david's life before the accident takes place inside the lucid dreaming, so who knows, maybe something's not as it seems in that part as well?