varg escapes from prison! anyone else heard this?!?!??

[Black Winter Day]

 

[Erik]

Yet, you think it's funny when it's pointed towards other bands. Interesting how that works, isn't it?

How about you dig up one post by me where I think something of the sort is funny?

Neither was writing "TEH".

I wasn't trying to be funny, I was emulating idiocy.

The funny thing about your argument is that if we were making fun of, say, Shagrath or Dani Filth, you would be right in the thick of it. But since it's your precious Varg, you immediately stick up for him.

Are you quite sure? At the very least, I wouldn't beat the "tr00"/"n3cr0"/Casio (or equivalent) horses. Again, prove what you're saying. I'm not going to deny that I respect Varg immensely for some of his views and for his sublime music. Is it strange that one does not ridicule people you respect? Anyway, if you read my post, you'll notice that my main problem is that the "jokes" you're making have been DONE, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN ad nauseum, and they are NOT FUNNY ANYMORE.

That's easy. He's a hypocrite, a murderer, a bad musician (IMO), and a dumbass to boot.

Oh no! He's a murderer! God says killing is bad!

Even if the "hypocrite" bit might be true in some cases and I don't agree with everything he says, I can't really see that he's done anything in the last five years or so that should spark this kind of constant ridicule.

 

[J.]

How about you dig up one post by me where I think something of the sort is funny?

I haven't the time or patience for such a thing. But are you really going to sit there and deny you've never poked fun at Dimmu Borgir and the like?

I wasn't trying to be funny, I was emulating idiocy.

So was I. In this case I was emulating Varg's idiocy.

Are you quite sure? At the very least, I wouldn't beat the "tr00"/"n3cr0"/Casio (or equivalent) horses. Again, prove what you're saying.

You may not remember this, but a very long time ago, I distinctly remember you, Lutz, and one other person trolling the Opeth board with a ridiculous "True vs. False" type of thread. I'm sure all efforts to dig this thread up would prove fruitless. But it happened, nevertheless.

Anyway, if you read my post, you'll notice that my main problem is that the "jokes" you're making have been DONE, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN ad nauseum, and they are NOT FUNNY ANYMORE.

You know what, this is easily solved: If it bothers you so much, don't read the thread or post in it. BWD has posted some negative-Varg stuff, yet you don't get onto him. I wonder why that is? Because he likes Burzum's music? Perhaps.

Oh no! He's a murderer! God says killing is bad!

Well, not just God. Pretty much every civilized government would agree, as would any intelligent human being.

Even if the "hypocrite" bit might be true in some cases and I don't agree with everything he says, I can't really see that he's done anything in the last five years or so that should spark this kind of constant ridicule.

Well, within the past week he tried to escape with only what, 2 years, left to serve? Idiocy epitomized.

I guess he was media-starved.

 

[Shakermaker]

Well, within the past week he tried to escape with only what, 2 years, left to serve? Idiocy epitomized.

I guess he was media-starved.

as i posted, varg has allegedly received death threats and he says that an inmate tried to strangle him. considering that he ran off with only 2 years left, this might be true - hell, maybe he was just afraid.
but i forgot, he's only a worthless nazi pig and doesn't know such things as 'emotions'

 

[Erik]

I haven't the time or patience for such a thing. But are you really going to sit there and deny you've never poked fun at Dimmu Borgir and the like?

I would at least be a little bit more creative if I did. Back up the things you say or don't say them.

So was I. In this case I was emulating Varg's idiocy.

How is saying "tr00", "gr1m", "kvlt" or "n3cro" emulating Varg's supposed idiocy?

You may not remember this, but a very long time ago, I distinctly remember you, Lutz, and one other person trolling the Opeth board with a ridiculous "True vs. False" type of thread. I'm sure all efforts to dig this thread up would prove fruitless. But it happened, nevertheless.

I remember, and you wouldn't find the thread as we eventually removed it... What can I say, that we did to annoy Opeth fanboys. The contents of that thread was quite different from this.

You know what, this is easily solved: If it bothers you so much, don't read the thread or post in it. BWD has posted some negative-Varg stuff, yet you don't get onto him. I wonder why that is? Because he likes Burzum's music? Perhaps.

My first post wasn't directed at only you, I didn't quote your post. You replied, though. But sure, you're right, I could just stop reading this thread, IF IT WEREN'T THAT MORE OR LESS EVERY OTHER FUCKING THREAD ON UM IS THE SAME. TR00 THIS AND GR1M THAT AND CASIO THIS all over the fucking place, not just about Burzum. Mention fucking Darkthrone or whatever and you're sure to have some self proclaimed comedy king come up and type "TR00." It is getting on my nerves.

Well, not just God. Pretty much every civilized government would agree, as would any intelligent human being.

REEEALLY NOW...

What about "murder" in self defense?

Well, within the past week he tried to escape with only what, 2 years, left to serve? Idiocy epitomized.

Well, he did say his life had been threatened... I do agree it seems like a stupid thing to do but in no way can we know how he saw the situation. I'm not going to judge his actions when I don't know the circumstances around them.

 

[Black Winter Day]

boohoo, someone rated this thread 2/5...

 

[HarmonyDies....]

=`(

You must be listening to Blind Guardian



Oh yeah, and 5 words:



"Det Some En Gang Var."

 

[Ayeka]

Well, what can I say? Varg's life has apparently been threatened and he makes an escape from prison...fair enough really. Come on, an intelligent man like Varg wouldn't try and make an escape just for media attention with only 2 years left on a sentance...any sane man would know that.

Add my props to BWD for sticking up for Varg...maybe some people aren't white enough to realise the favours he's done for us. Apologies to the respectable non-white members of this forum, but you know how I stand with Judeo-Christ-insanity and any move to rub it out from white lands is a welcome move.

 

[Black Winter Day]

Apologies to the respectable non-white members of this forum, but you know how I stand with Judeo-Christ-insanity and any move to rub it out from white lands is a welcome move.

wise words, although erik has been sticking up for him much more than i have

 

[Nate The Great]

It's about time we had a thread with some arguments. Let's start calling each other really nasty names . . . then it'll be like the old days. Like Smekerman!



I like Burzum, but Varg is quite the character . . .

 

[J.]

Add my props to BWD for sticking up for Varg...maybe some people aren't white enough to realise the favours he's done for us. Apologies to the respectable non-white members of this forum, but you know how I stand with Judeo-Christ-insanity and any move to rub it out from white lands is a welcome move.

I'm curious to know what "favours" you speak of. And please don't tell me you are speaking of the church burnings. Churches that had more culture than Varg could possibly fathom. Varg is nothing more than an immature delinquent. He is no "voice of the people" nor some martyr for heathens.

 

[Nate The Great]

Can you image how long Varg would last in an American prison? Not that ours are the worst, but they sure don't leave gates unlocked for murderers. Jeffery Damer didn't last long because he had that same spoiled child attitude that Varg has.

 

[J.]

Varg would have been repeatedly ass-raped and would have been sucking some dick while a big black guy holds a civ to his throat. It would be especially interesting because of Varg's nazi views, and considering near (or over) 50% of the American prison population is black, that would not boad well for little ol' Kristian (Varg's real name, hahahah)

 

[Erik]

Makes sense that you would oppose the church burnings, doesn't it Dreamlord... Whatever "culture" lies in the churches is "culture" that does not belong here. Christianity is a disease upon our lands that should and will be rooted out. Varg's actions as far as the church burnings go were very honourable. Whether they were actually beneficient to his cause is debatable.

Varg would have been repeatedly ass-raped and would have been sucking some dick while a big black guy holds a civ to his throat. It would be especially interesting because of Varg's nazi views, and considering near (or over) 50% of the American prison population is black, that would not boad well for little ol' Kristian (Varg's real name, hahahah)

Yes, isn't yours a wonderful country...

 

[Black Winter Day]

Yes, isn't yours a wonderful country...

now where's that can-of-worms picture when you need it...

 

[J.]

Makes sense that you would oppose the church burnings, doesn't it Dreamlord... Whatever "culture" lies in the churches is "culture" that does not belong here. Christianity is a disease upon our lands that should and will be rooted out. Varg's actions as far as the church burnings go were very honourable. Whether they were actually beneficient to his cause is debatable.

Honourable to who? To people who could really give a fuck about a teenage delinquent with a lighter? To the small "Inner Circle"? To the people who attended the church? The church burnings were very selfish acts of immaturity that probably had the reverse effect that Kristian intended. His "cause" was nothing more than attention-whoring. Kristian can feed the media-frenzy with crap about Odin, heathens, nazis, satanists or whatever group he decides to join next week, but he was never anything more than a hack that grasped onto whatever would feed his reputation.

And as far as your "self defense" claim, I don't buy it. That is nothing more than heresay coming from Kristian after Oystein was dead. I guess self defense in Norway is different than in the US. Self defense is a reaction to being attacked. Kristian was very much proactive in the attack.

Given, I may not know the whole story.

Yes, isn't yours a wonderful country...

Actually, I have seen, read, and heard some things recently that make me want to move to Canada. Take that as you will....

As a sidenote, Kristian supposedly escaped from jail to avoid death. I read in interviews that he embraces all evil and death. I guess when you're not the aggressor and don't have the upper hand, things change. How typical.

 

[Erik]

Honourable to who? To people who could really give a fuck about a teenage delinquent with a lighter? To the small "Inner Circle"? To the people who attended the church?

To me and to others who feel Christianity should be destroyed, it was an honourable deed. I'm not saying everyone agrees with me.

The church burnings were very selfish acts of immaturity that probably had the reverse effect that Kristian intended.

Selfish, of course. Selfishness is the only reason that makes sense for such acts. Reverse effect, probably. That's also what I said: "whether they were actually beneficient to his cause is debatable." These actions probably strengthened Christianity as a whole, but there lies symbolic value in destroying a church built upon an ancient heathen site of worship, and because the churches were particularly old and "valuable," it probably hurt a bit.

"Skjold Church was a large wooden church about 100 years old. The church contained an alter board and preaching chair from the 16th century. All this was said to be of historical, Christian value. So it was to be reduced to a pile of ashes."
-- Ihsahn of Emperor

His "cause" was nothing more than attention-whoring. Kristian can feed the media-frenzy with crap about Odin, heathens, nazis, satanists or whatever group he decides to join next week, but he was never anything more than a hack that grasped onto whatever would feed his reputation.

Varg's beliefs are somewhat more coherent than you and the rest of the anti-Varg people make them out to be. Yes, he is a bit of a revisionist but he really doesn't jump on new bandwagons from week to week. People change, their opinions evolve with time, but the opinions expressed on BURZUM's early works aren't really terribly incompatible with Varg's opinions today.

And as far as your "self defense" claim, I don't buy it. That is nothing more than heresay coming from Kristian after Oystein was dead. I guess self defense in Norway is different than in the US. Self defense is a reaction to being attacked. Kristian was very much proactive in the attack.

I believe Euronymous drew a knife before Varg did, according to the sources I have, which are admittedly not unbiased. I truly do believe that if Varg hadn't killed Euro, Euro would've killed Varg. Also, what Norway considers self defense is probably exactly the same thing as the US considers self defense, but neither is necessarily what I would consider self defense...

I read in interviews that he embraces all evil and death. I guess when you're not the aggressor and don't have the upper hand, things change. How typical.

If you honestly believe that Varg hold such beliefs then stop living in 1991. People change. If you would say Varg believed in "evil" now he'd either get very upset or fall down on the floor laughing.

 

[Ayeka]

wise words, although erik has been sticking up for him much more than i have

Sorry dudes ^_^ the old memory gets weary in it's old age. And That Eril has pretty much said everything that needed to be said >_<

I'm curious to know what "favours" you speak of. And please don't tell me you are speaking of the church burnings. Churches that had more culture than Varg could possibly fathom. Varg is nothing more than an immature delinquent. He is no "voice of the people" nor some martyr for heathens.

Exactly the church burnings. The culture in 'em ain't our culture, and represents Alien occupation of our land. Our people being forced to work and pay for the church and be thrown into duck ponds as witches is they tried otherwise. Our people being brainwashed into thinking god will hate them unless they have 12 Catholic children each and never question his authority. Many hundred years of this leaves a stubborn stain that's damn hard to get rid of, so every little helps. Kudos to Varg for putting his money where his mouth was and burning the fucker down.

It would be especially interesting because of Varg's nazi views, and considering near (or over) 50% of the American prison population is black, that would not boad well for little ol' Kristian (Varg's real name, hahahah)

Whatever happened to free speech, or respecting another person's views?

As a sidenote, Kristian supposedly escaped from jail to avoid death. I read in interviews that he embraces all evil and death. I guess when you're not the aggressor and don't have the upper hand, things change. How typical.

Errrr...these interviews would be at least 10 years old...

 

[Erik]

Whatever happened to free speech, or respecting another person's views?

Free speech obviously doesn't apply to them evil evil nazis!

 

[J.]

Whatever happened to free speech, or respecting another person's views?

I guess we should ask Varg the same thing, huh?