Im getting much bigger mixs now but!!
My vocals always just feel out of the mix.
Many times almost thin. I try short delays which just sound odd to me.
I try dry but its not part of the mix.
I try doubling, but sometimes that also sounds a bit odd, I would like it to be just a clean good take that atmospherically sits in the mix and feels part of it. Doubling I never know what to do with the other takes EQ wise, removing the bottom end just makes it more toppy and loos the warmth.
I have tried to be careful with Eq, the choice of mic I have used adds a bit of FET distortion and thus it cuts nicely but that cut often can mean the lower part of the vocals disappear if you eq it round the 3k and 15k areas (boost) - so I resist but still feels thin.
I am wondering if serial compression is needed, ie 1176>LA3 style stuff. I have used a Deessor gently on the vocals which I find helps.
Katatonia on TGCD and NITND is just amazing that warm but cutting sound specially on NITND (its good on TGCD but the solidtube isn't quite as warm).
Have you listened to the albums and wondered the same or do you just thing -PAH easy, if you do, how is it done?
On the Katatonia stuff I always here something going on down below thats just - nice and warm. But when I mess with any eq below 1k its just box and muffly. Any idea where that warmth may be from?
My vocals always just feel out of the mix.
Many times almost thin. I try short delays which just sound odd to me.
I try dry but its not part of the mix.
I try doubling, but sometimes that also sounds a bit odd, I would like it to be just a clean good take that atmospherically sits in the mix and feels part of it. Doubling I never know what to do with the other takes EQ wise, removing the bottom end just makes it more toppy and loos the warmth.
I have tried to be careful with Eq, the choice of mic I have used adds a bit of FET distortion and thus it cuts nicely but that cut often can mean the lower part of the vocals disappear if you eq it round the 3k and 15k areas (boost) - so I resist but still feels thin.
I am wondering if serial compression is needed, ie 1176>LA3 style stuff. I have used a Deessor gently on the vocals which I find helps.
Katatonia on TGCD and NITND is just amazing that warm but cutting sound specially on NITND (its good on TGCD but the solidtube isn't quite as warm).
Have you listened to the albums and wondered the same or do you just thing -PAH easy, if you do, how is it done?
On the Katatonia stuff I always here something going on down below thats just - nice and warm. But when I mess with any eq below 1k its just box and muffly. Any idea where that warmth may be from?