Wendy Dio - interesting statement
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AngraRULES
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Perhaps. Or perhaps my quality standards for music are *slightly* different than yours.
i can agree and see how he isn't relevant in a prog metal forum. now a classic rock/metal forum. totally different.
plus, i love this album and artwork! still trying to relocate it on vinyl.
labrekk
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You're surely right. I prefer shitty music and you prefer good music. I rest my case.
General Zod
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That I can't speak to. All I can say is, UM has very active Old School and General Discussion forums, and he generates no chatter on either of those forums either.
If someone wants to posts some YouTube links, to some of his stronger material, I wouldn't mind checking it out. Gracias.
AngraRULES
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Ahhh, somebody is trying to use sarcasm, and it's not working...
Listen dude, don't try to distort things and make it like I think your taste is wrong. I never said that you prefer shitty music, nor I implied it. If anything, I figured if you really like this band, we must have very different tastes. Therefore, standards are different.
Have you checked the Apples & Oranges thread in the Lounge? I think you should...
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
J. Golden
Heaven and Hell Records
oh we will debate this one later. HAHA Until then I ask where is that cynical view of things?
J. Golden
Heaven and Hell Records
relevant or irrelevant it is pointless to discuss here. When it comes to forums and I refer to any (won't just single out this one this time) the only metal that is "relevant" is the bands that that forum has heard of.
I have said many times that forums are just a small drop in the vast sea of metal and rock. Just because a band is not discussed here doesn't mean they are not "relevant"., it only means they are not on the radar of a Angra fan or whatever.
Why does Eddie Trunk come to mind right now?
I have often wondered how the internet and forums have made the world a smaller place yet everyone in them sounds like they believe the world is flat again.
The Rods are a great band and actually have a quite strong following and have for three decades. Most bands today will never achieve that. Then again maybe they will as long as there are people in forums to argue relevance.
I have said many times that forums are just a small drop in the vast sea of metal and rock. Just because a band is not discussed here doesn't mean they are not "relevant"., it only means they are not on the radar of a Angra fan or whatever.
Why does Eddie Trunk come to mind right now?
I have often wondered how the internet and forums have made the world a smaller place yet everyone in them sounds like they believe the world is flat again.
The Rods are a great band and actually have a quite strong following and have for three decades. Most bands today will never achieve that. Then again maybe they will as long as there are people in forums to argue relevance.
nomisofsiman
Member
This forum is absolutely nutty sometimes, but it makes for great entertainment too. I'm not going to lie about that.
labrekk
Member
As I'm good at comparing apples and oranges, I'll say that Feinstein-Third Wish is much better for me than any Angra disc...Which makes it more relevant FOR ME than anything Angra-related, which I don't give a damn about. But it's just because my music quality standards are *slightly* different than yours.
Claus / Intromental
20 years of uniting the powers of metal
"Relevance" is a very personal subject. It can not be discussed.
That said - if you want to compare apples and oranges, I'm pretty certain that the only way to do that with metal releases are to compare sales, and by those Feinstein's "Third Wish" clearly outnumbers most of the obscure prog/power bands we talk about here. Also, the promotional campaign behind "Third Wish" (by both Magic Circle AND SPV) was way larger than most power/prog album promo campaigns.
Btw, "Third Wish" could have been a great album - good production, good songs, and John West is an incredible singer ... NORMALLY. Why he has chosen to deliver a mediocre vocal performance here is beyond me - I just don't get it. There are several places on the disc where he is at best very pitchy (I'd go as far as to accuse him of being out of tune).
c.
PS: back to original subject - Joey DeMaio is a douchebag.
That said - if you want to compare apples and oranges, I'm pretty certain that the only way to do that with metal releases are to compare sales, and by those Feinstein's "Third Wish" clearly outnumbers most of the obscure prog/power bands we talk about here. Also, the promotional campaign behind "Third Wish" (by both Magic Circle AND SPV) was way larger than most power/prog album promo campaigns.
Btw, "Third Wish" could have been a great album - good production, good songs, and John West is an incredible singer ... NORMALLY. Why he has chosen to deliver a mediocre vocal performance here is beyond me - I just don't get it. There are several places on the disc where he is at best very pitchy (I'd go as far as to accuse him of being out of tune).
c.
PS: back to original subject - Joey DeMaio is a douchebag.
labrekk
Member
Here you go again with this...You definitely hear something I don't cause I find West to be excellent on Third Wish, as good as he is on his other releases. But we already argued about that in the past...
Claus / Intromental
20 years of uniting the powers of metal
Here you go again with this...You definitely hear something I don't cause I find West to be excellent on Third Wish, as good as he is on his other releases. But we already argued about that in the past...
Exactly ... a good thing can never be mentioned too many times
AngraRULES
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Which is totally fine with me, dude. I don't think any less of you for preferring Feinstein over Angra.
I honestly never thought Feinstein was relevant. I'm in many metal forums and don't recall seeing much about it. The publications which I have written for also didn't talk much about it (maybe I just didn't notice it). I will be the first one to admit that I *usually* don't pay that much attention to more old-school stuff or the traditional 80s metal style. That could've been it. I also wasn't aware of the 30 year anniversary thing that was mentioned. I still don't see people talking about them everyday or how much they're adding to the current metal scene. To me, that makes a band not so relevant. And before anyone tries to take jabs at Angra, I also don't find them relevant anymore.
dcowboys311
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As someone who spends way too much time reading metal sites/posting on forums, hosting a metal college radio show, receiving promos, etc, this is the first time I've ever seen anyone discuss Feinstein for more than 2 posts. Ever.
AngraRULES
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That's my point, exactly. I get press releases every single day. I only heard of Feinstein's Third Wish because SPV sent me the promo when it came out years ago. I don't recall any of the magazines I worked with (RockHard, Valhalla to name a few) doing anything on that. I will repeat though, before people start attacking, that I may simply have missed the article.
The Fiddler
Just Do It.
And of course, Wendy gave her approval to allow Jorn (and Hughes) to stand in for Ronnie at the Heaven and Hell concert next month (which was scheduled before Dio's illness) that will benefit the RJD cancer fund.
If Wendy thought the timing of Jorn's tribute was in bad taste, then there is no way she let's Jorn sing at Ronnie's tribute. If Jorn is on good terms with Wendy, Iommi, and Butler, then there should really be no reason for fans to be critical of Jorn for the timing of the release of his tribute CD. Just my $0.02.
nomisofsiman
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J. Golden
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