What window is this in PT? (drum programming, MIDI view)

[JeffTD]

Just came across this on the Toontrack site:

http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=93

Bottom right - what view is that? Or am I retarded and that isn't PT? That looks SO much more pleasing to me than standard piano roll notes, and might make programming drums in PT9 an option for me, rather than doing it in Cubase like I'm so used to/proficient at.

 

[black.death]

i have no clue. but would like to know.
bump for you.

 

[Josh M.]

That's how MIDI looked in Pro Tools 7.4. All MIDI editing was done in the track lane and could not be achieved in a separate window. Believe me, the new dedicated window is much more accessible and easier to edit with; the old way was a pain in the arse.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Looks like it's just the normal piano roll and the diamonds you are seeing is the velocity view.

 

[greyskull]

Thats the velocity.

 

[BLUElightCory]

Looks like it's just the normal piano roll and the diamonds you are seeing is the velocity view.

This.

 

[JeffTD]

So the diamonds represent velocity of hits, not the hits themselves? Not as cool as I thought .

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah man, it's still no where as nice as the drum editor in cubase. Not even close actually.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

So the diamonds represent velocity of hits, not the hits themselves? Not as cool as I thought .

Precisely. But what does it matter if the hits are squares instead of diamonds? Diamonds are just squares turned 45 degrees, right?

 

[JeffTD]

The diamonds occur squarely "on" the grid, while traditional piano-roll notes occur "at" the grid - it looks incredibly wrong to my eyes to have it this way.

Still doesn't change the fact that you can't relabel/organize the grid, which is the biggest issue with piano-roll based drum programming.

 

[AdamWathan]

I actually like using the rectangles that fill the grid spaces as opposed to the diamonds centered over the grid, heh... Old Fruity Loops habit I think.

 

[greyskull]

WAAAAH CuBumdo is better at MIDI WAAAH!
I'm used to drawing in the notes.
Don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[AdamWathan]

WAAAAH CuBumdo is better at MIDI WAAAH!
I'm used to drawing in the notes.
Don't see what all the fuss is about.

Just because you're used to doing it with a program that makes it harder doesn't mean the other program doesn't do it better

Like Jeff said the only real barrier for me with MIDI in PT is the inability to alias the note rows so you can see you are drawing in a "Snare" hit instead of a note at F#5 or something.

 

[JeffTD]

^^Yup, just because you've always done something a certain way does not at all make it easy, correct, or efficient. Case in point: your Beat Detective methods, greyskull.