What your All-Stars band would be?

Amarantus said:
Weak guitar riffs and vocals, added together with a drummer who is overplaying every song. That's not a good combonation.
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I have heard all 3 of their albums quite a few times and I wouldn't agree with that at all, vocals are fairly average but riffs are generally strong (as is song-writing)

yanic is overly technical sometimes however, that is for sure
 
One day you'll open your mind and realize all of this technical shit is lame. That all that truly matters is inspirational, original music that sounds good. Which most of metal bands nowdays fail to realize. It took me a while to figure it out for myself, but ever since then I've never looked back.
 
I already agree with you there (read some of my comments, I've stated many times songwriting is the most important thing and that technical proficiency is just icing on the cake)

this argument started out on whether or not Yanic Bercier is an excellent drummer or not, and based on things like speed/rhythm/precision/control/complexity, I think he's clearly a great drummer

QV isn't really even that technical anyways (outside of the drumming), so your comment is not valid here
 
Amarantus said:
One day you'll open your mind and realize all of this technical shit is lame. That all that truly matters is inspirational, original music that sounds good. Which most of metal bands nowdays fail to realize. It took me a while to figure it out for myself, but ever since then I've never looked back.
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You speak in pretty definite terms for someone who just said the following in another thread:

Right, so you can lay absolution on that claim? It's only a matter of opinion that a band is overrated (aka less liked) by someone like you.
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Maybe one day you'll open your mind and realize that your taste and personal approach to music aren't universal, instead of just spouting rhetoric in attempt to sway an argument in your favor.
 
AceRoccola said:
You speak in pretty definite terms for someone who just said the following in another thread:



Maybe one day you'll open your mind and realize that your taste and personal approach to music aren't universal, instead of just spouting rhetoric in attempt to sway an argument in your favor.
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haha, great post

amarantus = owned (TBH, even though I like you amarantus, you really have no argument here as super technical bands make up maybe 1/5 or 1/6 of the bands that I listen to on a routine basis)
 
Well I never once said Quo Vadis was overrated, nor did I ever downplay the talents of any of the members of the band. I have no doubt in my mind they are all exceptional musicians, but they cannot right good songs to save their lives. A band full of "musicians" seemingly never works out in the longrun. Malmsteen is the best example of this. So the basis for his argument is null. Your whole argument is that their drummer kicks ass and thats about it. That doesn't make them a good band, or give them claim to have an impact on metal in any fashion. Most, if not all of the shit they play has been done before, and better. It's nothing new, original, or refreshing to hear...like nearly all of tech bands. And like I said before, I'm not downplaying their abilities to play their instruments, but they all have one thing in common. They. Cannot. Write. Good. Songs.
 
dude, that's your opinion.

I have listened to all 3 of the albums numerous times, and all of them feature very strong songwriting from my perspective

and I really don't know how you can say they are unoriginal, the only band that sounds like them is death, that's about it. There are a couple of tech/melodic bands but most of them came after quo vadis (and were influenced by quo vadis)

their sound is VERY original for the most part, jeez man have you even heard any of their albums?? or did you watch that 30 second clip and assume the whole band is a massive wankfest??
 
Wow this is getting really annoying now. I'm well aware that it's my opinion. If we didn't differing opinions, then we wouldn't be discussing any issue at all. According to you their songwriting ability is very strong. But from what I've seen from the bands you listen to, it's not so much focused on anything that actually shows true songwriting ability. You listen to shit because you think it sounds cool, which is why you are defending Quo Vadis right now. But hey that's cool, good on you. Listen to what you want, I won't try and stop you. But trying to defend bands like Quo Vadis and their impact on metal is just kind of absurd. They are a flake band, depended on one element...their drummer. It's not hard at all to play groovy 32nd notes on your kicks and have your guitarist mimic it, and then toss in some really weak and uninspired melodies in for good measure. If you can't see past that, then that's not really my problem. Their "sound" is far from original. There's been a plethora of bands to use that formula, none of which are worth a shit, and I don't see a band being based solely on this type of songwriting going very far.
 
Quo Vadis may not be the best band around but I fuckin' love their song I Believe, and they are hardly as bad as Amarantus is makin' them out to be.
 
Amarantus said:
But from what I've seen from the bands you listen to, it's not so much focused on anything that actually shows true songwriting ability. You listen to shit because you think it sounds cool, which is why you are defending Quo Vadis right now. But hey that's cool, good on you.
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how so?? what bands do I listen to that have weak songwriting?? It is true I enjoy a very high level of musicianship but I listen to a shitload of 80s thrash/heavy metal and early 90s death metal (both of which aren't really all that technical). I like quo vadis because it appeals to my ears (the same reason that I like say a band like judas priest), get your head out of your ass and understand not everybody feels the exact same way about music that you do

Listen to what you want, I won't try and stop you. But trying to defend bands like Quo Vadis and their impact on metal is just kind of absurd. They are a flake band, depended on one element...their drummer. It's not hard at all to play groovy 32nd notes on your kicks and have your guitarist mimic it, and then toss in some really weak and uninspired melodies in for good measure. If you can't see past that, then that's not really my problem. Their "sound" is far from original. There's been a plethora of bands to use that formula, none of which are worth a shit, and I don't see a band being based solely on this type of songwriting going very far.
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are you fucking retarded?? I'm not claiming they have made some sort of a huge impact, I like them because they appeal to me, I don't care what influence or impact they have made in metal.

I don't care that you think they are a "flake band"

shut the fuck up and learn to respect other's opinions, jesus
 
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