Where are ze German bands?

Brett - K A L I S I A

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I have just noticed that I have worked with bands from many countries (something like 18 different ones), but actually not a single German band. Considering the insane number of metal bands there, this is quite surprising and it needs to change! :)
 
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I'm actually working with more bands from outside Germany than with German bands myself.
German bands are generally just cheap when it comes to paying for services/studio etc
 
if bands over here have a budget, they go with one guy producing, mixing and mastering it all. some bands go the do it yourself way, (and 99% fail....) i mix a lot more bands from india than from germany, haha.
 
german bands just don't want to spend money at all, almost every band I know is like
"yeah, we're drinking booze for 100$ every show, but we don't want to spend more than
10$ for al full length".
The few bands that want to spend more don't exist long enough th spend the money.
 
Where I was living In Germany(Aachen) the local music scene was pretty awful. I put it down to the fact every second person studied engineering or physics and had no time to play music any more. I can only generalise here but I think that the Germans are a pretty studious lot of people, and therefore there are less "college bands" around.
Aachen is one if not the most renowned technical university in germany, so everyone from germany, austria and switzerland who cannot get into the ETH Zürich and dislikes Vienna is there to study some number-crushing subject (I'm actually a computer science major at TU Vienna so... i do my fair share of numbercrushing), so this explains the huge amount of engineers.

And i too have noticed a huge reluctancy in austrian and german bands to pay for a decent recording, when i talked to some Aussie or USA-Bands theres a total different mentality, they know how important kickass-recordings are (maybe this explains why there are virtually no austrian/german bands playing the underground-metal game on an international level, with BTM even the french got their foot in)
 
We Germans secretly read zis forum and do everyzing ourselves. If we have a budget, zen we let ze Swedes do ze mixing and/or mastering.
Not kidding.

BTW, I recently noticed that about 9 out of 10 well-known (metal) mastering studios seem to be based in Sweden, and mostly Stockholm. Plec sure has much competition over there... ;)
 
Yeah, it is renowned for being one of the best engineering Universities in the world apparently.

Im actually moving to Vienna next Thursday believe it or not. Is there a good local music scene over there?
Depends on what music youre into, theres definately a scene but its not the holy land either. Vienna is of course a world city, and not to mention the world capital of music, so nearly every taste is catered to. But not to derail the thread, ill send you a pm!.
 
I guess German bands don't want to work with a french engineer :tickled:
edit: or is that the wrong stereotype?
Hahaha no I think this is quite a good clue actually :)

if bands over here have a budget, they go with one guy producing, mixing and mastering it all. some bands go the do it yourself way, (and 99% fail....) i mix a lot more bands from india than from germany, haha.
From India??? Really???

We Germans secretly read zis forum and do everyzing ourselves. If we have a budget, zen we let ze Swedes do ze mixing and/or mastering.
Not kidding.
Hehe yes this is true, or should I say this has been true for the last decade or so (even Rammstein does it), but things are changing and so the Germans will follow I'm sure ;)
 
Im actually moving to Vienna next Thursday believe it or not. Is there a good local music scene over there?

Depends on how you define good scene. There are plenty of bands of every genre (a few really good ones imho), you can go to a few concerts every week if you want to.
There is one location that has a few concerts every week, and most of them are metal.
I guess Death Metal is pretty popular around here, but there's some of everything present. Unfo I've seen some poppy techno "metal" stuff popping up lately too, but I'm not sure if everything of it is local or not.

About the Bands beeing cheap thing:
For sure my work experience with bands isn't scientific truth or a fact, but I also have the impression that those international bands I have worked with so far weren't "cheap", as you see it around here. By cheap I mean stuff that has allready been said before by Stef: they dont have problem to spend 100€/gig & person at the bar but they wont have the same money to make a single :lol:
But maybe I only have that impression because I couldnt see those international bands hitting the bar at a gig lol


But who am I to say such a thing, I only got into audio that much because I was a cheap bastard too ;)
Did spend the money on guitar&audio gear rather than booze tho.

@ Lon:
Wenn du auf der TU bist kennst du wahrscheinlich die Leute von Gradient of Disorder? Sind fast alle physiker was ich weis.