Whose side are you on?

Who did the worse thing?

  • The Son (raped a 3 year old girl)

    Votes: 19 52.8%
  • The Father (shot his son)

    Votes: 17 47.2%

  • Total voters
    36
for the dehumanized posters that don't have the part of the brain empathy working and are being ridiculously and sadistically biased by siding with the father, educate yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_for_an_eye

children are children for the sole reason that they are not mature enough to make adult decisions, and don't know how to deal with their emotions, we all make mistakes so remember that, SEXUAL ASSAULT IS NOWHERE NEAR AS EXTREME AS MURDER, act like a fucking human and have some empathy.
 
Both are fucking sick and twisted.. but i would do the same to someone that is so fucking sick and twisted that he actually raped a 3 year old child(Wouldn't be able to shoot my own child though..).
There is no excuse in the world, and being mentally ill is no excuse, the fucker deserved to die in the worst way possible.. but i am still questioning the dads mental stability as well, being able to do that to his own child, he might just be equally sick.
 
for the dehumanized posters that don't have the part of the brain empathy working and are being ridiculously and sadistically biased by siding with the father, educate yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_for_an_eye

children are children for the sole reason that they are not mature enough to make adult decisions, and don't know how to deal with their emotions, we all make mistakes so remember that, SEXUAL ASSAULT IS NOWHERE NEAR AS EXTREME AS MURDER, act like a fucking human and have some empathy.

Personally, i think that eye for an eye is the right way to go in many cases.
If you rape a 3 year old, you deserve to get your penis cut of, being forced to eat the damn thing, and then get executed.
If you murder your own son, you deserve the same thing.

Turning your other cheek is just ignoring whats going on.. and seriously, if you guys think that someone who actually raped a 3 year old can be "cured", or deemed "safe" to society.. you are fucking stupid.
 
Personally, i think that eye for an eye is the right way to go in many cases.
If you rape a 3 year old, you deserve to get your penis cut of, being forced to eat the damn thing, and then get executed.
If you murder your own son, you deserve the same thing.

If you think eye for an eye is acceptable... then you're a fucking closet fundamentalist Christian and are a waste of air.

Turning your other cheek is just ignoring whats going on.. and seriously, if you guys think that someone who actually raped a 3 year old can be "cured", or deemed "safe" to society.. you are fucking stupid.

Idiot statement. :rolleyes: No-one is turning the other cheek. Certain people are just a bit less kneejerk cumsquat than others.

As for your last statement about treatment and release... you're the fucking stupid one. There are COUNTLESS examples of people being released after commiting a heinous act (and I don't just refer to sex crimes either) and going on to living out their lives in a non-violent and non-law breaking way.

Are you people perpetually living in the 17th Century inside your heads or something?:rolleyes:
 
If you think eye for an eye is acceptable... then you're a fucking closet fundamentalist Christian and are a waste of air.



Idiot statement. :rolleyes: No-one is turning the other cheek. Certain people are just a bit less kneejerk cumsquat than others.

As for your last statement about treatment and release... you're the fucking stupid one. There are COUNTLESS examples of people being released after commiting a heinous act (and I don't just refer to sex crimes either) and going on to living out their lives in a non-violent and non-law breaking way.

Are you people perpetually living in the 17th Century inside your heads or something?:rolleyes:

Whoa, whoa now. No need for the Christian accusations and such...or the name calling in this thread. Not picking on you, I just think this thread is getting a bit unnecessarily heated.

I also think that our initial reactions to this story are pissing a lot of people off royally, and causing us to take up the vigilante justice stance. C'mon now people...would you be willing to shoot your own son, spend life behind bars, and leave your family behind for life because you felt it was appropriate to put a bullet in your son's head?

Our justice system exists for a reason. Let the guy rot behind bars and contemplate for the rest of his life what he did to his fifteen-year-old son. If the kid was still alive, he would get the punishment he deserved...that's for sure.

-Joe
 
Whoa, whoa now. No need for the Christian accusations and such...or the name calling in this thread. Not picking on you, I just think this thread is getting a bit unnecessarily heated.

I also think that our initial reactions to this story are pissing a lot of people off royally, and causing us to take up the vigilante justice stance. C'mon now people...would you be willing to shoot your own son, spend life behind bars, and leave your family behind for life because you felt it was appropriate to put a bullet in your son's head?

Our justice system exists for a reason. Let the guy rot behind bars and contemplate for the rest of his life what he did to his fifteen-year-old son. If the kid was still alive, he would get the punishment he deserved...that's for sure.

-Joe

+1

nothing Fundamentalist Christian about sending the boy in a prison cell with a repeated sex offender for about a half an hour. And for the correction, it wasn't the Christians that came up with the "eye for an eye", it was Hammurabi.
 
Fundamentalist Christians are more like "everyone else is going to burn in hell" and "Gay's should get the death penalty" also "Obabma is a socialist"
 
If you think eye for an eye is acceptable... then you're a fucking closet fundamentalist Christian and are a waste of air.

Oh, and here i thought i was an atheist born in the socialist "dont put anyone in prison"-sweden.. but fuck me, i guess im a Christian fundamentalist deep inside.. yup, uhuh..

Idiot statement. :rolleyes: No-one is turning the other cheek. Certain people are just a bit less kneejerk cumsquat than others.

Yeah, and youre not a "kneejerk cumsquat" telling people that they need to suck dick to get rid of their emotional problems, calling people names for having an opinion thats not the same as yours.

As for your last statement about treatment and release... you're the fucking stupid one. There are COUNTLESS examples of people being released after commiting a heinous act (and I don't just refer to sex crimes either) and going on to living out their lives in a non-violent and non-law breaking way.

So you think that someone that has raped a 3 year old child can be treated? Or someone that has slaughtered their own son in cold blood?
I mean, i can agree that "regular" rapists, robbers or murderers might get treatment/medication to control their problems.. but to me, there is a huge difference in getting involved in a gang and killing someone, having a mental breakdown and raping someone and forcing your own son to get naked, and then shoot him in the back of the head because he raped a 3 year old child..

Are you people perpetually living in the 17th Century inside your heads or something?:rolleyes:

No, i just think that someone who rapes a 3 year old child deserves to die, and i think that people that murders their own child in such a gruesome matter deserves to die.

In fact, im going to call you a closet Christian fundamentalist.
To quote the bible:
(Matthew 7:1) said:
Do not judge, or you too will be judged

(Matthew 5:38-40) said:
You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.
But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person.
If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.

But i guess its me sharing the Christian faith.. if anything, you should call me a Jew.
 
hm...shit all around^^
send the father to jail for homicide with a few years less penalty because of, dunno special psychic situation(and get him some psychiatrist checking his anger management slills^^) & get the poor little girl the help that she'll need.
 
heres the problem with the boy deserves death, how the fuck can you justify the punishment for rape as death, if you believe that, you might as well thing that for theft you get your hand removed, and if you commit adultery you have your penis/boobs cut off, the punishment is not fitting the crime at all. The only reason most of you are getting so worked up is because for some reason your beliefs have you to believe that rape is worse than murder, but you have to actaully set your bias aside and scale and weigh the actual amount of harm caused by rape and murder respectively.

Set away the bias and justify a reasonable punishment, and it becomes clear. The reality is, it is relatively common for teenage boys to sexually assault children for a small time frame, particularly in the boys that are social outcasts, not only do I know of women that have been victim of it, I have known boys which have done this (including my own family). Its one of those weird phases that they grow out of and aren't proud of, usually embarrassed and emotionally damaged themselves for having to live with the fact of what they did, like I said they are kids and don't fully grasps what is going on, then when they grow up and realize what they have done they regret it.

That does not mean to let them do it, if they are caught or admit to it, they need help and counseling because like I said its the outcasts/nerds that will do this, which means they are doing it due to the fact that they have emotional issues themselves. Although they usually grow out of it, its better to get them help faster so that they get better, the less the chances they will do it when they are older or have other mental illnesses develop from whatever is making them sexually assault smaller children.

If they continue to do this throughout their teenage years into adulthood, they need to be punished accordingly and they get whatever comes to them in prison, especially rape, which they will get when some inmate find out why they are in there. They may end up getting shanked, ass raped, and even killed, but everyone knows that is a possibility when you go to prison, so if you don't want to get punked in prison, follow the fucking laws.

Bottom line I am saying that murder is NOT the justification of rape EVER!!! The son should have gotten counseling and if he continued to do it juvenile correction, and now the father should get the death penalty.

After the son plead mental illness, and the father killed him, the father is now trying to pull the defense of mental illness to be charged with manslaughter (5-15 years), even thought it was premeditated. With that in mind anyone who believes that rape is punishable by death and murder is punishable by 5-15 years is prison is so ass backwards I don't get how you can function as a human being.
 
With that in mind anyone who believes that rape is punishable by death and murder is punishable by 5-15 years is prison is so ass backwards I don't get how you can function as a human being.

Personally, i think that there should be a different word for having forced sex with babies then "rape".
Raping a child so young that they cant even speak is not comparable to raping a grown woman that has much more "tools" to deal with the emotional trauma.
Also, you seem to claim that its absolutely normal to rape 3 year olds when your in that age? Im really hoping thats not true..

Also, i dont think its fine to get away with slaughtering your son with a penalty of 5-15 years in prison, death would be more appropriate.. its one thing if its an accident, if they got in a fight and he accidentally pushed his head over the edge of a table or something similar, but this was a coldblooded execution of his own son.

I dont think its fair to compare raping a grown woman with a 3 year old, or murdering a stranger compared to your own son.

But i do have to take back that thing about killing the rapist, i was completely enraged by how sick and twisted that guy is.. what i think is more appropriate is to throw him in to prison and let the other inmates use him as a lovedoll.