Why do overheads...

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Knives.
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Clip so easily, even when they dont SOUND loud. I'm having an issue using slate drums it seems to be the master drum bus is always clipping until i turn my cymbals down a bit but then sometimes they get too quiet. Could it be the way i've routed my cymbals?
 
o_0 i've never experienced such an issue, are you just hi-passing? or also boosting in the crispy range? and you said overheads, but do you really mean the slate cymbal samples? and how did you route them? have you tried limiting with a low threshold to keep everything under control?
 
it could be because most people dont compress oh`s (i dont) so they may have more dynamics. One trick that I believe james murphy uses, is to put a limiter on the oh`s with the snare track sidechained to it so that it only clamps down when the snare hits.

is the snare causing the overheads to peak out? you need to find out what is causing your oh`s to peak out (like does it happen on a china hit, or snare hits, or loud crashes...)
 
I think i'll try the limiter tip and filtering out some of the high end, personally i prefer to just use the superior 2.0 cymbals instead but it takes alot of memory up. There was no boost on the cymbals at all. What do you mean sidechained? sounds like a good idea i could perhaps try that!
 
I think i'll try the limiter tip and filtering out some of the high end, personally i prefer to just use the superior 2.0 cymbals instead but it takes alot of memory up. There was no boost on the cymbals at all. What do you mean sidechained? sounds like a good idea i could perhaps try that!

filter the low end out instead of the high end. there is a sidechaining tutorial sticky
 
i don't like sending overheads to the drumbus. is that what most of you guys do? my drum bus is just "drums", as in kick/snare/toms etc. overheads and ambience need to be treated separately in my case
 
It has to do with average loudness(rms) vs. peak loudness. Cymbals and drums are very percussive, and they don't have alot of average volume in the overhead mics. One way to deal with the issues you're having is to compress or limit your overheads.