Why?

[MaellaJohn]

And yes, I do like plenty of shit music, but I know and acknowledge it.

I find it really weird that you say this. What makes music "shit" to you, if you can like it and call it "shit" at the same time? lol

And anyways, I keep seeing this band get shit from people on here and fb. Occasionally, I speak up. And I think that's stupid on my part because I'm nowhere close to changing anybody's opinion. Heh

I don't really like Attack Attack..

I just don't like seeing people label music shit. Same as when you were getting on about Betraying the Martyrs.
Just feels like there's no respect at all and that sucks. But thinking that there should be total tolerance and respect in anything that involves human activity is definitely foolish.

Besides that, threads specifically made for the purpose of saying "how do these guys make money when their music is garbage?" are really pointless. I'm sure all the guys on here don't enjoy hearing about this as much as the OP.

I feel like the only thing this type of thread says to the forum members is "hey look at this shitty band making much more money than you. Let's criticize them for being stupid while we apply ass cream to each other to relieve the butthurt"

And the guys on here who make a good living doing audio engineering don't ever really show signs of caring about this type of stuff, as far as I've seen anyways.

And that pretty much sums up why I labelled it jealousy. I never said anybody was jealous because of the music they were making, but because they're making a living off of music.

There's a band I really don't like around my area called Take Charge because one guy has been a big asshole to me every time I've talked with him. And they're pretty well-known among the scene around here. And I get jealous because I feel like an asshole who makes, in my honest opinion, generic deathcore shouldn't deserve the popularity in the area.

Feels like the same situation. Although I stopped being butthurt about that a while ago because I knew the only way would be to just accept it and stop getting pissed for no reason.


I'm sure my train of thought is marvelous on this post. Not rereading anything to double check. lol
I also hate posting my opinions on this forum because they're so often disagreed with and I hate arguing with people.
So I think I should stop doing things like this

 

[ratsapprentice]

Alright, look at it this way.
I understand that the Beatles were an innovative band that had a knack for writing catchy songs, but I do not take pleasure from listening to their Music.
I enjoy listening to Hour Of Penance even though I can hear that all of their songs are basically formulaic, and do not do anything new in the genre.
I wouldn't say that Hour Of Penance are a better band than the Beatles, even though I take infinitely more pleasure in listening to them.

 

[MaellaJohn]

I can understand that.

Seems like you're speaking from a completely technical point of view when you decide whether or not you judge a band to be "shit" though.

My reasoning is that no band/musician is shit because it's all a matter of opinion, so I don't feel like it's appropriate to treat any band like they're "this" or "that" because.. ya know, I might view one band "black," while another person views them "white." It's not my right to tell this other person that they're "black" if they're set on thinking the band's "white".. something like that

Not sure if you know "Blood on the Dance Floor" or not.
But I fucking hate that shit. The music sounds dumb as fuck to me and their lyrical content has got to be the most malevolent type of brainwashing ever. To me, they send a signal to all impressionable young teens that it's okay to have terrible morals and do self destructive shit.

I absolutely hate them and everything they do.

But I still don't feel like it's my place to really judge them. I mean, I judge the fuck out of them, but I don't feel like it'd be okay to tell fans of them that my views of them are what is correct and theirs aren't.

But I understand that there are some musicians who give a LOT more to "music" than others do. And Attack Attack definitely isn't one of those bands.. they're pretty much living off of the already overly saturated "crabcore" type of stuff. It's old and gets really annoying.

I don't feel right, still, calling them "shit" though.

 

[TravisW]

I'll admit to being an out-of-the-loop old man, but are Attack Attack really rich and famous? Or, are they going to eventually turn 29 and have tens of thousands of dollars of debt racked up via label debt, touring debt, tax debt, and knee surgeries (crab walk)? After expenses, are the members individually even pulling down a typical middle-class wage (after expenses) from this? I'll recognize that a maybe a lot of teenagers in various places like them a lot, but there's quite a ways to go between "teenagers like" and "profit".

 

[ratsapprentice]

Although I appreciate what you're saying. There isn't any need for people to be preachy or to give their opinion on everything.
However, if you have formed opinions on something, then you should make them known if appropriate.
Even if it is negative, you've still made the assertion that it is "correct".

 

[MaellaJohn]

Yeah, there's really nothing wrong with speaking your mind.
There are some points in time when people don't really speak their mind just to express their beliefs, but they want to make someone else feel bad or angered.
I think times like that are generally inappropriate because every human has a right to be happy and do whatever they please to obtain happiness, except for infringe upon the rights of others and their happiness, in my book, anyways.

But this isn't one of them, still. Unless this forum was chock full of AA! fans and the OP was like "this band is such fucking garbage and all of you fans are retarded for liking them, you pieces of shit. die."

But it's not that bad