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Xeon 1230-V3 vs. i5 4670K
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I'm looking at buying a new computer and from my research into CPUs this is what I understand:
Xeons are designed for servers which have a constant load demain.
Haswell chips, with the i5/i7 chips with the K extension (such as 4670K and 4770K) are designed to be overclocked, and are more suitable for audio production.
For gaming, you want to invest in a good graphics card.
Xeons are designed for servers which have a constant load demain.
Haswell chips, with the i5/i7 chips with the K extension (such as 4670K and 4770K) are designed to be overclocked, and are more suitable for audio production.
For gaming, you want to invest in a good graphics card.
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I would look for actual benchmarks rather than anecdotal stuff.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+@+3.20GHz
http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4670K+@+3.40GHz&id=1921
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+@+3.20GHz
http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4670K+@+3.40GHz&id=1921
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Good morning guys,
Thanks for your replies
The thing with those benchmarks is, that the Xeon supports Hyperthreading, from which not all applications profit.. And afaik reaper doesn't.
Thanks for your replies
The thing with those benchmarks is, that the Xeon supports Hyperthreading, from which not all applications profit.. And afaik reaper doesn't.
I recently built a computer and had to decide between the two of these. I went with the xeon in the end, this is what I was recommended at the time
"I'd go with a xeon over the i5. It's basically the same as an i7 4770 anyway for a lot less. The price has come down a fair bit on it as well. It's probably a better buy for anyone over an i5 4670k. The single thread performance won't be much lower and the multi thread performance would be a lot higher. It can't be overclocked but that means you can save money on the board and cooler."
Bear in mind that I didn't want to overclock the CPU so that may affect your final decision. Also from a quick google, it seems that hyperthreading does work in reaper http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=106273
"I'd go with a xeon over the i5. It's basically the same as an i7 4770 anyway for a lot less. The price has come down a fair bit on it as well. It's probably a better buy for anyone over an i5 4670k. The single thread performance won't be much lower and the multi thread performance would be a lot higher. It can't be overclocked but that means you can save money on the board and cooler."
Bear in mind that I didn't want to overclock the CPU so that may affect your final decision. Also from a quick google, it seems that hyperthreading does work in reaper http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=106273
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Keep in mind that the Xeons don't have integrated graphics, so you'll have to spend a little more on a graphic card, if you intend to see anything on your screen
On shear power though, the Xeon beats the i5, assuming you're not overclocking.
On shear power though, the Xeon beats the i5, assuming you're not overclocking.
I got a Radeon HD7950 with the xeon, beast for gaming, hitting 84fps average frame rates on the new Tomb Raider on Ultra settings.
Why would you want a server cpu for gaming and audio production? You won't notice any difference at stock speeds on audio, xeon is better if you're on shit like video editing or 3d rendering; the i5 is actually faster in games and handles great the overclocking.
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the xeon is basically the i7 4770 minus the igpu, which i dont need, since i'm getting a gtx 770 anyway. the i5 might be better at gaming, if it has been overclocked, but only if the game doesn't support hyperthreading. in that case the xeon wins. and since the next gen consoles will have 8 cores, hyperthreading will become more and more popular in new games
Hyperthreading has been arround for years and close to zero games benefit from it, and games still don't use 4 cores effectivelly, the integrated gpu is a bonus ( useless to me). But your concerns are understandable, you never know what technology will hold in the future. I am getting the i5 4670k because I think it's more suitable for gaming, and I can overclock the shit out of it if I ever want to. Jumping from an old E8400.
Just wanted to say, I still have a 1st generation i5-750, which still runs amazingly well. I'm planning on doing the i7-4770k upgrade soon, simply because overclocking that thing with a high level cooler will make this CPU an absolute monster for at least 4 years to come and still completely usable for 8 or so.
sprack
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I don't think it's true to say that there is zero benefit from HT. It depends on the workload. Something that is compute bound rather than DMA/IO bound and somewhat heterogeneous will see a large boost from HT...ie FFT's. If all you're doing is moving textures across the bus though then it's not much use.
Maybe on entry level like i3 but on processors on the league of i7 HT won't make any difference. Crysis/Far Cry Battlefield and probably nothing else are the games that get the boost. Some games will run even slower with HT on.
sprack
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Ok. Fill me in. What are the architectural differences between an i3 and and i7 that would cause HT to make a difference?
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afaik an i3 is a dual core with 2 virtual cores, an i5 is a quadcore and an i7 is a quadcore with 4 virtual cores. and since next gen consoles will have 8 cores, games will benefit more from it in the future
