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Treat it just like a real amp. Find impulses you really like. AlbertA has a utility to convert impulses to the Axe-FX format. I like to use the New Recto, Recto, FAS Modern, or SLO100 models. They can be boosted with a tube screamer.
Post some recordings or something and say what in specific you don't like about the sound you're getting, the question is really general.
My answer is basically, take whatever you'd do with a real amp: the amp type, the kind of cabinet, the settings, and start there, then tweak.
Post some recordings or something and say what in specific you don't like about the sound you're getting, the question is really general.
My answer is basically, take whatever you'd do with a real amp: the amp type, the kind of cabinet, the settings, and start there, then tweak.
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I quite honestly didn't like mine for high-gain tones. Cleans? Fucking perfect. Leads? Liquidy smooth. Tight, saturated, high-gain tones for fast riffing? Not so much.
It's the ultimate djent machine, for sure... but for the 5150/Recto type tones most of us on this forum go for, I found it to be less than stellar, and actually feel that the POD does those styles a bit better.
It's the ultimate djent machine, for sure... but for the 5150/Recto type tones most of us on this forum go for, I found it to be less than stellar, and actually feel that the POD does those styles a bit better.
JeffTD
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I used the 15 day return period with Fractal Audio. I couldn't justify having $1500 invested in a piece of gear I wasn't thrilled with. The thing's been out of my possession for 2 weeks or so, now. 
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the new Severed Savior album was recorded with one, imho it sounds really nice, search for them on myspace.
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The new Cynic also had a Krank and Diezel on it. I don't think the distorted tones were purely the Axe.
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yeah, but Mike is a killer player and knows what he does, he posted a few samples somewhere playing suffocation covers with his Engl Preamp and it was almost perfect, he recorded some stuff with a Behringer V-amp and it sounded really good, too...
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I'm using an axe-fx for recording and as an fx unit with my amp.
I disagree with schnarf2. If you use it like the amp, it won't sound the same. The best results are with complete different amps/mics/cabs.
try all the presets on axechange, and start from there. I use a preset called "tool" that I changed somewhat the most.
I disagree with schnarf2. If you use it like the amp, it won't sound the same. The best results are with complete different amps/mics/cabs.
try all the presets on axechange, and start from there. I use a preset called "tool" that I changed somewhat the most.
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I used the 15 day return period with Fractal Audio. I couldn't justify having $1500 invested in a piece of gear I wasn't thrilled with. The thing's been out of my possession for 2 weeks or so, now.
damn, you were so stoked about getting one. I thought it would have been the Real Deal. good thing you chose to return it; I didn't act quick enough with my old carvin guitar and their return policy
J.DavisNJ
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Hm, I guess I didn't catch that thread. I remember him saying almost exactly the same statement about the new Exivious release, but not Cynic.
Also, Paul talks of the Krank and Diezel in a video interview on Metal Kult. Also, in the brief shots of him playing in the studio, you can see he is plugged into a Revolution.
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JeffTD
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A djent-heavy tone is cool for the lower tuned, stop-start, very chug-laden stuff, but I find that it sounds oversaturated and thin once you start playing some Black Dahlia or Arch Enemy style riffs.
No... Tymon said the rhythm guitars were Krank. Cleans and possibly leads were AxeFX, but the rhythm tones were Krank.
No... Tymon said the rhythm guitars were Krank. Cleans and possibly leads were AxeFX, but the rhythm tones were Krank.
Here's the settings for a heavy patch I like:
First use a drive block. TS808 OD. Drive at 9 o'clock, Tone at 3 o'clock.
Then an amp block: Recto 1. Drive at 6.81, Bass at 3.31, Mid at 2.76, Treble at 6.54, bright on. Presence just above 0. Master at 6.18. Set the tonestack to RECTO RED.
Cabinet block: Mono hi-res, 4x12 RECTO2, 57 DYN, drive to taste.
If you try out the recto new, you'll find it's a bit more in your face.
When I say to treat it like a real amp, I don't mean use the same settings. I do mean, use the knobs in the same way. They all effect exactly the same things. And while I definitely agree that using whack ass setups can get great and really cool results, it's a pretty easy starting point to use virtual gear that relates to gear that you already know how to use.
Again the impulses are a huge deal. If you have a speaker you really like, take an impulse of it with a mic in a good position. If you have an impulse you really like, convert it and use it.
It's also really important to consider the speakers you're using with the Axe.
Haha, also there's a 50/50 chance your "Tool" patch was made by me. Recto and Das Metall or Recto New and Das Metall?
You also may like my Petrucci Rhythm preset. It's in the updated Ultra Bank C I believe. If you have a standard you can still run the preset, I think. It's on axechange as well.
First use a drive block. TS808 OD. Drive at 9 o'clock, Tone at 3 o'clock.
Then an amp block: Recto 1. Drive at 6.81, Bass at 3.31, Mid at 2.76, Treble at 6.54, bright on. Presence just above 0. Master at 6.18. Set the tonestack to RECTO RED.
Cabinet block: Mono hi-res, 4x12 RECTO2, 57 DYN, drive to taste.
If you try out the recto new, you'll find it's a bit more in your face.
When I say to treat it like a real amp, I don't mean use the same settings. I do mean, use the knobs in the same way. They all effect exactly the same things. And while I definitely agree that using whack ass setups can get great and really cool results, it's a pretty easy starting point to use virtual gear that relates to gear that you already know how to use.
Again the impulses are a huge deal. If you have a speaker you really like, take an impulse of it with a mic in a good position. If you have an impulse you really like, convert it and use it.
It's also really important to consider the speakers you're using with the Axe.
Haha, also there's a 50/50 chance your "Tool" patch was made by me. Recto and Das Metall or Recto New and Das Metall?
You also may like my Petrucci Rhythm preset. It's in the updated Ultra Bank C I believe. If you have a standard you can still run the preset, I think. It's on axechange as well.
It's also important to remember that the sound you're getting is a miked amp, not standing in the room listening to an amp.
Also, you can do cool things that you couldn't do with a real amp. For example, if you have the Ultra, you can use the multiband compressor and use Andy Sneap's C4 settings, or something cool like that. If you'd do certain EQ in post-production, you can just do that on the Axe too.
Don't be afraid of the FAS custom models. They all seem to be based off various amps, but with their undesirable qualities removed, or sort of combinations of "best of the best." For what you're looking for, you might really like the FAS Modern. I personally really like the Supertweed for a crunchy Fender sound that doesn't fart out.
Also, you can do cool things that you couldn't do with a real amp. For example, if you have the Ultra, you can use the multiband compressor and use Andy Sneap's C4 settings, or something cool like that. If you'd do certain EQ in post-production, you can just do that on the Axe too.
Don't be afraid of the FAS custom models. They all seem to be based off various amps, but with their undesirable qualities removed, or sort of combinations of "best of the best." For what you're looking for, you might really like the FAS Modern. I personally really like the Supertweed for a crunchy Fender sound that doesn't fart out.
Tym_ex
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Right. The cleans and leads and some of the rhythm tones are Axe-FX on the new Cynic album. The Exivious stuff is all Axe-FX.
p.s. the next axe-fx firmware release, in addition to a whole crapload of other new amps, will include a 5150.
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