Yamaha hs80 owners I summon thee

[ForceTheTriggerSucks]

Soooo after a few recommendations, I bought some hs80's. Aaaaaaand my question is, are these supposed to completely lack bass? I think part of the problem here is the ports facing the wall but they sound strikeingly like big iPod headphones. At first I thought it was my mix but then I traveled to the most bass heavy song I know and they still sounded thin. I'm not exactly in the ideal environment here but then ya know, who is. I didn't get a bad batch did I?

 

[Damian B]

Have you broken them in? Also, don't underestimate how much a bad room can completely fuck up your bass response. I couldn't hear 100-200Hz at all in my old room.

 

[jeid]

What he said, room treatment is important.

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Also, don't underestimate how much a bad room can completely fuck up your bass response.

This. Either both of your speakers are broken (unlikely), or your room and monitor placing sucks. HS80's have plenty of bass.

 

[LeSedna]

Really ? I found them lacking bass until I discovered the bass filter was cutting it After flattening it, it had way too much bass for my neighbours !

 

[ForceTheTriggerSucks]

Have you broken them in? Also, don't underestimate how much a bad room can completely fuck up your bass response. I couldn't hear 100-200Hz at all in my old room.

Yeah its like the same thing here, anything below like 150hz is completely absent. Moving into a new place soon and will have a room solely dedicated to this biz so hopefully it shall improve. Still feel like i should have bought the A7's though >.>

 

[crillemannen]

I have a treated room and i got the hs80's. They have aaallot of bass. Some clients have even asked if i had an additional sub.

 

[::XeS::]

Ok the room treatment but HS80s are not like an ipod headphones...they have lot of bass also in an untreated room. I have hs-50s in my untreated room and they move the wall

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Ok the room treatment but HS80s are not like an ipod headphones...they have lot of bass also in an untreated room. I have hs-50s in my untreated room and they move the wall

It depends completely on the room - no untreated or treated room sounds exactly the same, and they all have their own caveats depending on the size, shape, building materials and monitor placement. Some can have serious low frequency buildup with a couple of nasty dips, while others can sound really weak and tiny.

 

[chdrummer]

i love my hs80's. plenty of bass

 

[::XeS::]

It depends completely on the room - no untreated or treated room sounds exactly the same, and they all have their own caveats depending on the size, shape, building materials and monitor placement. Some can have serious low frequency buildup with a couple of nasty dips, while others can sound really weak and tiny.

Sure...but I notice bass also at low volume (not very very low, but at listening volume). I tried them in several rooms and the bass are still there...different perceptions but not ipod style....

 

[~BURNY~]

Lack of room treatment doesn't explain a total lack of low frequencies. If you have nulls, you will also have peaks and their frequencies will vary depending on where you stand in the room.
I think the monitors might be broken.
Another possibility is that the op is experiencing a relatively flat sound for the first time, maybe after years of bad listening habits. I know too many people who listen to music with bass freq boosted beyond belief and loudness engaged at high volumes.

 

[kaomao]

yeah they have low end but they don't have this huge low end as you say people.
My tiny genelec 8020 seems to have a bit more bottom end even though they're small.... btw I don't like genelec fake bootom end

 

[Jarkko Mattheiszen]

Another possibility is that the op is experiencing a relatively flat sound for the first time, maybe after years of bad listening habits. I know too many people who listen to music with bass freq boosted beyond belief and loudness engaged at high volumes.

That's actually something I didn't even consider, but very true indeed. When we say something has plenty of bass, we mean they have enough bass to hear the low frequency range truthfully. If someone is used to home speakers with a really exaggerated bass response in a crap room, a relatively flat nearfield monitor can sound kinda weak and lacking at first.

Losing everything below 150Hz doesn't sound right at all, though

yeah they have low end but they don't have this huge low end as you say people.
My tiny genelec 8020 seems to have a bit more bottom end even though they're small.... btw I don't like genelec fake bootom end

Not huge, but definitely plenty. Huge bass response sounds something like a 12" sub blasting in the trunk of a '91 Corolla.

 

[ballstix]

Mine have plenty of bass, but only if you stand in the right spots in my room .

 

[Fifth_Horseman]

Same here, I definitely get enough bass from the monitors, any problems with the lowend are due to my room.
OP, please check if you have the low cut engaged at the back of your HS80s.

 

[Nimvi]

Mine have plenty of bass, but only if you stand in the right spots in my room .

To continue on this: before I had a treated room, I've used the hs80 in a small untreated room. I had to move about a meter back from my usual listeningspot to hear what the bass was doing. Now that I use them in a larger, treated room, the bass is easy to hear and judge from the sweetspot to a point where I don't see a reason to ever get a sub.

So yea, walk around your room while playing music and see if there are points where the bass is clearly audible or disappearing. Big chance you are sitting in a roommode. If not, check your settings on the back of the speakers like a few have already mentioned. Also check if you don't have some form of EQ enabled somewhere.

Ofcourse it's not completely impossible that both speakers are broken, but I personally think that it's pretty unlikely that both would be broken in the exact same way.

Good luck and hopefully you will enjoy these monitors as much as I do!

 

[Derykus]

What are your settings for the switches on the back of the monitors? Is your mid boost or low cut engaged? Those will make your bass seem very small. I doubt you bought 2 that are faulty, but you never know.

FWIW I had some hs50m's, then I bought some MSP10's which are 8" monitors. I thought the 8" woofers would be much more bass heavy than the 5.5 inch hs50's, but that hasn't been the case.

 

[ForceTheTriggerSucks]

Burny is pretty much right on the money here. I had old sony stereo speakers with a sub in this room for quite some time. So getting actual monitors is obviously going to be miles away from what I am used to. And I had anticipated that. However, I have been in at least three different local home studios (2 of which using 5") and they have a much better bass response than I do. They are actually in a worse environment (acoustically & spatially) than myself. Just seems suspicious. I suppose when i move out of this heap, ill find out. Was just curious in the mean time. I am pretty much right up against the wall and next to a corner which sucks but i figured if anything the bass should be wild where I am.

 

[AboutBlank]

Still feel like i should have bought the A7's though >.>

A7's have way less lowend compared to the HS80M...