you guys should move the forum

It wasn't really an activist for a day type thing. All of the people who got mad about the arbitrary rules regarding homosexuality are people who've always been adamantly against homophobia, there's just never been a reason to be so vocal about it. Now, I see where you're coming from as well Deron, and I also understand that what it really comes down to is that it's your site so what you say goes. Of course none of this would've happened had no one ever goofed around with the Billy Milano forum (who are big fucking sissies for as tough and impossible-to-offend as they claim to be :tickled: ), but the way the matter was handled certainly exacerbated things. I maintain that Okcham's banning based on his signature was ridiculous and unfair, and the comments made about the posting of homosexual stuff being ban-worthy are discrimination any way you look at it. Unless posting stuff of ANY sexual nature isn't allowed, disallowing specific sexual (of course barring illegal and damaging stuff, ie pedophila, etc.) stuff is discrimination. This pissed off a number of people, myself included. Personally, I don't care what bands stay at UM or leave, I have no intention of trying to get any to move, but there is something that's not quite right going on here. If anything, specific board moderators should decide what content they'd like on their boards as opposed to a site-wide ban of anything homosexual in nature with no reason besides the fact that this is "a metal community." There are certainly numerous boards here that while they were made for metal bands, they definitely have plenty of non-metal related stuff being posted.
 
The fun/benefit of being on UM.com is many (and I mean MANY) people cross visit to other forums on here. I can't tell you the countless threads that talk about people finding other bands because a band they liked happened to be on UM.com so they were "checking out the other bands". It's because of that nature that it is vital to keep SOME sort of balance in the rules regarding signatures etc. (and yes, not just gay pics but nude pics etc. as well). I mean, how many people on here surf from work, or in the family room with wives/kids etc. We have a vast age span of users on this site, not just single dudes/gals sitting in their rooms. It's easy to turn signatures off on here, but half the fun, for me even, is checking out people's signatures and discovering new music from them or what sites people run etc. So it's not really about "it's my site what I say goes" it is more I am trying to look out for the overall user base/forum owners and allow them to take advantage of potential new fans/buyers of their music; and also make sure they can surf from wherever they want without having their wife slap them upside the head thinking they are on a porn forum, or a kid thinking their Daddy is a closet gay porn surfer lol.
 
:lol: Well, making kids think their dad is gay undeniably has some comedic value. Things would've gone a lot more smoothely over at sot if you'd just put it like that in the first place. Most people probably understood that you had something like that in mind anyway, but still, some of the stuff you said didn't seem as levelheaded or genuine as what you just posted and it's a lot easier to misconstrue what someone's saying when all there is to go on is text.
 
The only reason it did not sound level headed is I flipped my lid because of how many times I've had to deal with the sameeeee thing over and over. It's no lie when I said over 90% of the crap I have to deal with as admin so far stems from something in SoT. Check my post history in SoT and you will see this wasn't a "make a rule day" that day and I had warned/spoke of issues before in there. Many of the people that are perm banned have been given far enough chances. On the new SoT Azogue himself admitted to this being the third time he incited stuff like that with his postings. I already knew that and is why it is a perm ban. My stance has been the same all along, and like you said, most people know the dilio from square one because a lot of it is just common sense and showing respect for other members of this site.

Anyways, what's done is done and it's almost a new year! What that is supposed to mean.....I don't know either.