Your take on AxeFx?
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drew_drummer
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Hmm. Well... I think they sound pretty damn good. But too expensive for my money. I'd rather have a couple of decent amps. I hate drowning in options... I want to make music, not write a white paper on why metal is teh br00tz.
kev
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It sounds very good...good attack etc... but it still sounds digital to me. It has the classic harshness of the digital amps..it's the best digital but it's digital 
Anyway it has lot of cool things, lot of good effects but for example the axefx 1 doesn't have pots to control the gain, the bass, the middle, the highs...so if you have to do some changes, you have to navigate through lot of "windows" in the display.
I consider it a good tool if you use lot of pedals and lot of different sounds...if you mainly use an amp with a tubescreamer it's a waste of money
Anyway it has lot of cool things, lot of good effects but for example the axefx 1 doesn't have pots to control the gain, the bass, the middle, the highs...so if you have to do some changes, you have to navigate through lot of "windows" in the display. I consider it a good tool if you use lot of pedals and lot of different sounds...if you mainly use an amp with a tubescreamer it's a waste of money
crillemannen
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I don't know why people bitch about POD. I just recently mixed a major act and the guitars where POD. Brutal tone, killer playing. Sounded great
i recently traded my engl e 570 for an axe fx and it was the best thing i´ve ever done.
love it for playing live. just straight into my in-ear and that´s it. no big cabinet to carry around, no noise on stage-i love it.
i also own a pod from the first generation but i think it really sucks. it´s got a biiiiig latency. maybe line6 fixed this in their latest products.
played a hd500 in a musicstore a few months ago but i still sounded like shit to my ears.
love it for playing live. just straight into my in-ear and that´s it. no big cabinet to carry around, no noise on stage-i love it.
i also own a pod from the first generation but i think it really sucks. it´s got a biiiiig latency. maybe line6 fixed this in their latest products.
played a hd500 in a musicstore a few months ago but i still sounded like shit to my ears.
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Josh Burgess
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I doubt it. Don't get your hopes up. In my test, side by side A/B'd through same power amp and cab, the Axe-FX Ultra was destroyed by the 5150 no matter how much tweaking I did on the Axe. The real tubescreamer sounded better than the tubescreamer sim in the Axe-FX too.
I don't foresee the Axe-FX II being a significant improvement in amp modeling. It's still using the same old impulse responses for cabs. They just fixed a few of the inconveniences of the first Axe-FX and added a lot more processing power so that you can now do just about anything with the effects without running out of CPU. I expect the actual amp sim tones to sound pretty much the same, and the clips I've heard so far seem to indicate that as well...
I'd love to have an Axe-FX II + MFC-101 foot controller to cover all of my effects usage, but the price to have that is ridiculous. I can't justify 3 grand just for effects when my entire setup already costs less than that...
Josh Burgess
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Also, ignoring the fact that I prefer the 5150/5150 III -> miked Mesa cab setup over amp sims in general, I've STILL never heard a single high gain modern metal recording from the Axe-FX that is any better than what Joey can get out of the POD...
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Loren Littlejohn
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i have this feeling when im like 45 ill be searching round on craigslist and see one for liek 300$ and ill be like OH SNAP always wanted to own one of those. And my kid with be like "Dad that sounds like all those "Djent" bands from the 2010-2020 era everybodys using the 7505 iv++ (newest peavey 5150 rename) get with it dad"
I havent tried one yet personally but a lot of the clips i hear.. have that... that tone.. that well.. makes me think of periphery. Just like POD has that tone that sounds like... well POD! its just another amp in my opinion. Some people like the tone of a Mesa some of a Diezel some like Axefx some like 5150s or an Orange and some like the POD tone. Doesn't really make one inferior more of a person preference i think. But i will say this im not going to go buy a Hughes and Kettner after hearing a good clip on the internet with out playing it and deciding for myself first.
I havent tried one yet personally but a lot of the clips i hear.. have that... that tone.. that well.. makes me think of periphery. Just like POD has that tone that sounds like... well POD! its just another amp in my opinion. Some people like the tone of a Mesa some of a Diezel some like Axefx some like 5150s or an Orange and some like the POD tone. Doesn't really make one inferior more of a person preference i think. But i will say this im not going to go buy a Hughes and Kettner after hearing a good clip on the internet with out playing it and deciding for myself first.
I own an Ultra, best investment ever - bought one right after everyone mercy dumped their units on eBay for the AX2. Great for jamming, recording and live sound. Go listen to some of Ola's vids.
I'd buy one again, no doubt. A lot of people here have some massive bias because it IS a "digital amp/effects processor", which has a bad name due to those line 6 faggots going the cheap way. I do believe there is now a hate culture that is rampant among many guitarists for this reason - "it sounds too digital". The pod / axe are 2 completely different products, in that one had about 2 hours of R&D, while the other had blood, sweat and tears go into it. Then, once someone does something fairly good with a certain piece of gear, people then immediately bundle the relationship and everyone else jumps onboard and shows the love: Joy + pod; Bulb + Axe. Hands up here if you've ever bought a pod out of bandwagon excitement? I sure did. Although @ $100 it was steal
Give one a shot yourself and ignore everyone else here. I'm hoping the Axe can bring digital to the forefront, because 10 years ago digital stuff was still in its infancy. It will only improve and there will be a time where tube purists will be fooled easily by a blind A/B test. Hell, I think there was an amp/impulse response here thing recently that fooled a lot of people, even those that are highly skilled.
Have fun.
I'd buy one again, no doubt. A lot of people here have some massive bias because it IS a "digital amp/effects processor", which has a bad name due to those line 6 faggots going the cheap way. I do believe there is now a hate culture that is rampant among many guitarists for this reason - "it sounds too digital". The pod / axe are 2 completely different products, in that one had about 2 hours of R&D, while the other had blood, sweat and tears go into it. Then, once someone does something fairly good with a certain piece of gear, people then immediately bundle the relationship and everyone else jumps onboard and shows the love: Joy + pod; Bulb + Axe. Hands up here if you've ever bought a pod out of bandwagon excitement? I sure did. Although @ $100 it was steal
Give one a shot yourself and ignore everyone else here. I'm hoping the Axe can bring digital to the forefront, because 10 years ago digital stuff was still in its infancy. It will only improve and there will be a time where tube purists will be fooled easily by a blind A/B test. Hell, I think there was an amp/impulse response here thing recently that fooled a lot of people, even those that are highly skilled.
Have fun.
Loren Littlejohn
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It's not bias, I'm legit not impressed with any clips that have been posted.
Even Ola's clips (which are good) didn't do it for me.
Give me the real thing please. For the price of an axe (even used wtf) you can score a couple of awesome amps. My 5150 and mesa were less than the cost of an axe fx.
Even Ola's clips (which are good) didn't do it for me.
Give me the real thing please. For the price of an axe (even used wtf) you can score a couple of awesome amps. My 5150 and mesa were less than the cost of an axe fx.
Fair enough, I'm not pedantic enough myself to chase the tastiest tone so I can deal with what I have. Depends on what it's used for I suppose.
As a purist, I'd love to have many amps that I could dial in within a second, but then I'd need to maintain tubes, deal with neighbours, cost of electricity, etc...
As a gigging artist, I'd be lugging that shit around and hating it (as opposed to a 2RU unit straight into the board) and have god knows how many (or little) pedals.
Again, each to their own for whatever reason, so please try one out if you can. I have ~50 odd amp sims at my disposal with as many effects, but I really only use 1/10th of that. I do have a Dual rectifier, which is $4700 AUD (fucking RIP OFF compared to US prices) that I use occasionally, but only when nobody is home/weekends when people are awake.
crillemannen
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THat is exactly the thing i can't understand. Sure if it was 400$ or something then it would have been interesting. But it cost a freakin fortune, needs a poweramp and a cab to sound great?? Then you are up in a couple of thousand dollars man!!! You could probably get 2-3 really good heads for that :S I don't get it, i really dont
in the US maybe...
i paid 1499 for a new axe, a dual rectifier costs 2330 over here,
and i guess even more in most other countries
no, you don´t need it to sound great. you only need some better impulses than the standard ones that come with it. that´s it.
EDIT: if you only need THE one high gain sound you better go for a recto/5150/engl whatsoever. if you need more than one good sound (clean, crunch, etc.)and high end effects in just one unit there is no better thing than the axe fx.
StefTD
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yeah, +1 on everything metalsound said. You have to think of the Axe-Fx as a recording tool,
live amp sim and effects unit. And especially the effects are really awesome on the Axe-Fx.
A friend of mine for example plays in a band that's more in the vein of Muse, so he needs loads
of effects and different amp sounds.
Even for the chorus, phasers and so on, he would have spend more money than on the Axe-Fx
alone, but he gets even more with the Axe-Fx.
It's not like other guys spend even more than the Axe-Fx costs for an Eventide unit, but almost
everybody says "oh yeah, that thing sounds awesome, that's why it costs so much", but for the
Axe-Fx most people say "damn, that thing is just all digital and still costs so much!".
No I am not paid by Fractal Audio, would love to own an Axe-Fx, but I don't have one, just had
the time to try one for some time and I really like it.
No problem if you don't like it, but to say it's overpriced or junk is just bs.
And like Soultrash said, outside of the US the prices are very different, I could get the Axe-Fx
with a Peavey 50/50 poweramp and a decent 2x12 for the price of a new Dual Recto.
live amp sim and effects unit. And especially the effects are really awesome on the Axe-Fx.
A friend of mine for example plays in a band that's more in the vein of Muse, so he needs loads
of effects and different amp sounds.
Even for the chorus, phasers and so on, he would have spend more money than on the Axe-Fx
alone, but he gets even more with the Axe-Fx.
It's not like other guys spend even more than the Axe-Fx costs for an Eventide unit, but almost
everybody says "oh yeah, that thing sounds awesome, that's why it costs so much", but for the
Axe-Fx most people say "damn, that thing is just all digital and still costs so much!".
No I am not paid by Fractal Audio, would love to own an Axe-Fx, but I don't have one, just had
the time to try one for some time and I really like it.
No problem if you don't like it, but to say it's overpriced or junk is just bs.
And like Soultrash said, outside of the US the prices are very different, I could get the Axe-Fx
with a Peavey 50/50 poweramp and a decent 2x12 for the price of a new Dual Recto.
