2005 South American Tour

[Siren]

How cute, you say you wont waste braincells you dont really have to get out of it. I read everything you said and i read how a funny harmless joke turned into aggressive stupid namecalling, or what you actually want to pretend that you're a female copy of Misanthrope too and that is just your humor? If you do ill have Arch mail you my official fanclub information asap.

Of all people i thought you could take some stupid namecalling as nothing more than it is, which is some internet harmless venting with no real meaning but to have some fun. But since you see it as "agressive" i guess i was wrong. I guess the internet does get to your feelings after all.
And i thought you'd have trained your gf enough to not get hurt by what some online stranger says about her and start wondering why the world has such a low self-esteem that has to attack her, but i was wrong here too.
And no, i'm not a Misanthrope fan since i don't treat the whole world like this. I only like treating you the way you treat others.

Well Duh, i said i can do whatever the fuck i want to. You are free to try to get rid of me but i doubt you will succeed where all others have failed. In case you havent noticed Rahvin took a public dump on the forum as far as moderation goes accepting he's like a working mule moving things around, thats the extend of his moderation as far as content is concerned.

So yeah i dont pay the rent for the forum ( if i did it would run alot better than this by the way ) but im more than capable to do as i please when i please and have done so many times in the past.

First of all, i don't want to get rid of you. I don't give a shit about you, so why would i bother trying to get you out?
Second, you just repeated what i said in other words. You can do whatever you want, because rahvin took a public dump on the forum. If the moderators had another approach, they could stop you, but the point is they don't want to. And i don't blame them for that, it's DT's forum and they choose what they want to do with it.
So -i'll repeat- in much the same way, every other user can do whatever the fuck they want as well, so please don't feel so special.
And btw, i think it's interesting how you attacked your friend rahvin too, and all he did was ask for clarifications.





edit: i can't believe i'm still replying to this thread

 

[Tebus]

Well Duh, i said i can do whatever the fuck i want to.

Well then maybe you should go skate around on Paul Bunyan's skillet and cook his flapjacks. That's right. I went there.

 

[Arch]

Siren owns Misanthrope so much that it's beyond funny.

 

[La Rocque]

Back to what this tread is all about
The following is from the official -

Back from the S.A. trip - June 24, 2005

Yep, we've returned home after a very exciting and successful trip to South/Central america and would like to thank everyone involved; the promotors & agents, the excellent local support bands, the club owners, our touring crew and of course the extremely devoted audiences in Mexico, Venezuela, Costa Rica and Colombia. Michael Nicklasson extends a special thanks to Black line tattoo in San José for the new ink on this arm.

It has been a crazy ride, featuring our first ever night of playing two full live gigs in a row (Mexico City was subjected to nearly three hours of mayhem in total) as well as the less pleasurable experience of getting our sweaty faces sprayed with mace onstage at the gig in Maracay, Venezuela - but that's what happens when you strike the chords of chaos! All in all, it was a great adventure and we're really flattered by the awesome crowd response on all of the gigs. Thanks a lot to every single one of you!! Video footage from some of the shows will be posted here as soon as time permits.

While on the subject, we're sorry that some of the places that initially were planned for inclusion on the tour didn't make it to the end. We can assure you that we - the band members - didn't have anything to do with this, and that we're equally disappointed by not getting to visit Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Guatemala this time around. Like most other artists, we want to play everywhere, but it should be understood that the music business is very unpredictable and there are hundreds of possible reasons why changes sometimes occur to a touring schedule. The logistics are complex, and lots of different variables need to fall into place before an operation as big as bringing in a band, crew and equipment from the other side of the world can happen.

This is luckily obvious to most people, but since there are those who genuinely seem to think that a cancelled show means that the members of the band must hate the country, its inhabitans and everything it stands for (and who take it personally enough to whine about it in emails), it's worth pointing out that in 99% of all cases, the bands themselves have NOTHING to do with their tour schedules and eventual changes therein. If you think otherwise, you're seriously deluding yourself.

 

[Arch]

Yeah, it's really sad that some people think the band members of Dark Tranquillity hates certain countries or certain group of people. The band members are one of the few nicest people on earth and I really mean it. They are down to earth and are extremely friendly. It's very unfortunate that they can't tour in some countries due to problems beyond their control, but when the time comes, you'll be glad that you waited. Trust me.

 

[Angelbreeze]

It happens 'cause the most of local promotors say the band is the only one responsible when a gig is canceled, and by the time they say it, the band is too far to explain the circumstances about it.

 

[King Chaos]

I'll accept they're nice guys when they give the UK a little more attention.

 

[Siren]

@KC: now now, don't want it all. as a devoted fan you should make an effort to try to catch one of their other gigs, no?



edit: i've seen them about 4 times in total. even if i never see them again, i'll just be glad i had the chance to enjoy their show.

 

[wildfyr]

Q: Isn't it great that DT got back to Mexico and to other places in South America for the first time?

A: Why yes, in fact it is!

Q: What do you think forum visitors will remember most about the DT Mexico and South America tour?

A: Ohhh I don't know. Perhaps they'll look back and recall all the fights and bickering between attendees more than the actual events themselves?

Comment: Yeah, you're probably right.

 

[King Chaos]

@KC: now now, don't want it all. as a devoted fan you should make an effort to try to catch one of their other gigs, no?

I agree with one thing you said then... "No".
Im not flying 20million miles to see em when they could just come and play here, make loads of money, make loads of new fans and have sex with some beautiful british women (or men, if that's what they like). I'm poor. So I suck? I shouldn't want them to come over here if I'm a fan? Insision, a swedish deathmetal band no where near as successful as DT have been over three times in the past 3 years. Opeth have been to rio's a few times, In Flames even booked a date at the cockpit (little venue) two weeks ago (but backed out). But whatever, they can go spread the love in mexico or whatever. They all need it more because they can't afford to fly over to Issumiosalty tuskawacken rock open air like we can . So... to conclude... I look forward to making love to DT in england in the near future.

 

[Siren]

@KC: hehe fine, i was just picking on you.
but seriously, i thought they came to London a few months ago?

 

[King Chaos]

@KC: hehe fine, i was just picking on you.
but seriously, i thought they came to London a few months ago?

Iwas just picking on you and DT too .
yeah they did, supporting someone. But you know, london isn't just down the road... its like hundreds of miles and maybe even thousands of pounds. Plus I had to go to a yearly family thing. All sucked generally.

too many big bands think just playing london is suitable... but it's not. Nevermore were schedule for my local club, and then, oh dear, they pull out for no explained reason, and return months later, to play london to make up for it. silly bastards. doesnt make up for a damn thing. Maybe I'll learnt to drive. But it shouldn't come down to this. If it wasn't for guys like me, bands like Nevermore, Meshuggah and Dark Tranquillity would be nothing!!!

 

[Traveler In Time]

I can't believe, you're still talking hahahahaha

 

[Siren]

@KC: i know what you mean about teh suckage. i have missed more concerts than my brain can count because of situations like these. and to think that Athens is only 200something Kms from here. but these things cost, and there's more important obligations etc etc



Btw this part of the "Back from the S.A. trip" post on the site

This is luckily obvious to most people, but since there are those who genuinely seem to think that a cancelled show means that the members of the band must hate the country, its inhabitans and everything it stands for (and who take it personally enough to whine about it in emails), it's worth pointing out that in 99% of all cases, the bands themselves have NOTHING to do with their tour schedules and eventual changes therein. If you think otherwise, you're seriously deluding yourself.

seems kinda harsh to me. i actually find it hard to believe DT wrote that.

 

[Misanthrope]

Of all people i thought you could take some stupid namecalling as nothing more than it is,

You can stop right there: i dont condemn your namecalling, i condemn your hypocrisy about it. To be able to use the same arguments I use when attacking sensitive people you would have to put your money were your mouth is and attack everyone, not just me and people related to me. In the end i say you're full of shit because all of this is an excuse to take a shot at ME specifically, you're not a troll, you dont go out of your way to bitch and moan to everyone, you're just like Arch here that has a problem with me specifically but claims otherwise when its blatantly obvious.

I dont have friends, when it comes to this forum everyone is a target when they do something i dont care for, whenever is a newbie with 2 posts or Chaotico.

edit:i can't believe i'm still replying to this thread

You wont stop, walking away with dignity is apparently a big priority to you.

 

[Thanatos]

Dont worry, you're not less of a man because you let girls fight for you while you comfortably sob in a corner while sucking your thumb, we wont hold it against you fag.

Thanks, if I were unable to leave my home you could be sure I'd be here to keep you company, but there are other things in my life, I was sobbing because I didn't mean to expose(would'nt be the first time though) how pitiful you are, just to have some fun at the expense of your dumb girlfriend.

Just go and have a stroll around the neighborgood, feel the fresh air on your face, and accept your girlfriend is dumb, but hey, that's why you two got along so well, so screw the rest of the world, you can be a happy couple (in spite of your obtuseness) maybe take an english course together, the possibilities are endless

 

[Misanthrope]

No, still not quite me, and still far from working. Maybe one day you will realize random bullshit doesnt works on someone who is used to using random bullshit himself, not to mention first and more often than any of you pathetic imitators of my person.

 

[Thanatos]

Only it's not random, and it's not bullshit, and you know it.
And keep saying to yourself everyone wants to be like you, if that makes you feel better, but I'm weary of this, if it is an endurance contest then you win.

 

[Siren]

You can stop right there: i dont condemn your namecalling, i condemn your hypocrisy about it. To be able to use the same arguments I use when attacking sensitive people you would have to put your money were your mouth is and attack everyone, not just me and people related to me. In the end i say you're full of shit because all of this is an excuse to take a shot at ME specifically, you're not a troll, you dont go out of your way to bitch and moan to everyone, you're just like Arch here that has a problem with me specifically but claims otherwise when its blatantly obvious.

That's exactly our difference. You attack everybody including sensitive people, i only attack those who i think might not be overly-sensitive in regard to this kind of thing. I would never attack someone who i thought would be sensitive about this. If you're trying to say that you or Angelbreeze were somehow hurt by this, then i misjudged and i apologize.

But please stop flattering yourself by thinking i have a problem with YOU specifically. The only reason why i like bitching at you is because you seem able to take it without really making much of it (or so i gathered), and because sometimes i like treating people the way they treat me (and others).

I dont have friends, when it comes to this forum everyone is a target when they do something i dont care for, whenever is a newbie with 2 posts or Chaotico.

That's really good to know. For a while it seemed like you were siding with a certain someone and that made you lose credit.

You wont stop, walking away with dignity is apparently a big priority to you.

Well, you're wrong. Watch me walk. :Smokedev:

 

[Misanthrope]

Only it's not random, and it's not bullshit, and you know it.
And keep saying to yourself everyone wants to be like you, if that makes you feel better, but I'm weary of this, if it is an endurance contest then you win.

Really? cause you're a master of the "science" of psychology and can pass judgement and insight on what i post on this forum and divinate who i am in real life?

None of you will ever get that chance but any of you would be more than pleasantly surprised to ever interact with me in real life. Im just smart enough to develop a thick internet skin and have fun with it.

But go ahead and think this mask i call Misanthrope is my real face, if anything it just makes me happy to see its convincing enough to encourage people to pass judgement on me.