:.::

[Jolty]

- "figure 15: all items in place"
- "body" (over the keft eye of the face)
- "face" (middle-left of the page)

and on the second page, just below the "hours passed in exhile" lyrics, you can read "8x24"

who knows what those writings stand in for?

The first part is a reference to Monochromatic Stains, and I have no idea about the second. If you go to the eighth song, and count 24 words, the word you land on is either "dark" or "the", depending on whether you count "ourselves" as one word or not.

...One day, I hope people try this hard to analyze my cryptic bullshit.

 

[Silence:.::]

I just looked at my Haven booklet, and I see the there is no honor...
and the letters in pink, sth & WI and sth like N but it is hard to see.
Maybe there is a clue in each album since Haven, I wouldn't no, becasue I don't have them all.

 

[AetasMM0839]

I'll take a look into that. I have them all.

 

[Nt3N]

The first part is a reference to Monochromatic Stains, and I have no idea about the second. If you go to the eighth song, and count 24 words, the word you land on is either "dark" or "the", depending on whether you count "ourselves" as one word or not.

...One day, I hope people try this hard to analyze my cryptic bullshit.

what exactly is the reference to monochromatic stains? "the body or the lash"? "there is a face in the still water"? but what about the first string?

 

[Jolty]

what exactly is the reference to monochromatic stains? "the body or the lash"? "there is a face in the still water"? but what about the first string?

Tread not the path of least restraint
Each piece of evidence a lie, a lie
The body, the face, all items in place
I don't remember a thing

 

[La Rocque]

The eternal questions ...
Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Where are we going?
What does :.:: mean?

If you say or sing the word Haven and can view it on an graphic equalizer
or some sort of peak level meter, the bar graphic symbol will read :.::

 

[Nt3N]

Tread not the path of least restraint
Each piece of evidence a lie, a lie
The body, the face, all items in place
I don't remember a thing

yeah that's right

 

[dotsman]

I think I figured out the dots. :.::

I think it is a symbol of E.T. from the Atari game.
http://www.videogamecritic.net/images/2600/et_the_extra-terrestrial.png

If you look at the image of E.T. it is shapped just like the dots :.::

Also note, that if 'D' is one letter from 'E'. When DT moves on they advance to Extra Tranquility.

dotsman:.::

 

[Sephiret]

Only references to Seven (dots) in DT songs - one of you should try and put a careful finger over these songs;

From;
7. Damage Done
the first line;
"Went inside the caves of seven wolves"

And also there is 'Seven in number they are' - but i can't remember what song that is from - someone remind me before it drives me mad

 

[Siren]

@Sephiret: I think it's from "Hedon". If not, then some other Mind's I song.

 

[Matse]

Nice theory. Although I would say they would advance to Extra TranquiLLity.

 

[rahvin]

Nice theory. Although I would say they would advance to Extra TranquiLLity.

Mikael should dub the alien creature.

 

[Sephiret]

@Sephiret: I think it's from "Hedon". If not, then some other Mind's I song.

ahh Hedon, that's it;

according to darklyrics it is;
'We need not the horns
that emanate from our warty, haunted bodies
severed and numbered they are'

rather than seven in number they are

But I have the 10" box version of The Mind's Eye, and in place of the line;
'severed and numbered they are/seven in number they are,' whichever it is, the line is simply; '### ### ### ### ### ### ###'

I think this is the clue to the whole dots riddle - the line which either contains the word seven or possibly severed, is simply replaced with 7 groups of hashes.

I think I am onto something here - we need to look into The Mind's Eye lyrics and the lyrics for the song Damage done with its reference to the seven walls.

Any ideas from this guys?

Dan

 

[:.::zamijackyl]

This came to me last night trying to catch sleep (I did a quick search on this thread and didn’t encounter any exactly similar theories):

When first presented, the larger “Haven dots” are on the front cover and in an upright position. To me it looks like the number six and Haven is the first DT album to include six members. There are seven dots and six members so I thought that the six members of the band are who create the music and therefore the band, which could be the seventh dot – since they’ve said to be a democracy all the dots are important to the whole.

On the back cover there’s the key next to the song titles and I thought that the songs or a song is the key to this mystery. The sixth song is The Same and I quote: “Repay the visit of our loss / Reset the marks again / The turning point / Seems to be holding on… / Everchanging as the same hearts beat it ends up all the same”

To me this describes the change within the band; Fredriksson leaving, Brändström and Nicklasson joining and Martin H. changing to guitar. And although there is change the band is still the same although with new blood and therefore having new posibilities and ambitions to achieve musically.

After Haven the dots have been presented (to my knowledge, being to lazy to check them right now ) in the song credits of Character which I thought would simply describe the whole band working on and having input on the songs. On Fiction they’re featured on the spine or whatever of the CD, next to the band’s name and to me it seems like the same case as with Character. “Everchanging as the same hearts beat it ends up all the same”

As I said this is the idea I had last night and I don’t expect it to be the “answer” to this mystery even if there is one - DT could be just having a laugh at us with these “mysterious” things, those damn Swedes

 

[plintus]

Haven is the first DT album to include six members.

As they say in Soviet Russia - "вмемариз"!

 

[rahvin]

“Gentlemen,” he said, “I invite you to go and measure that kiosk. You will see that the
length of the counter is one hundred and forty-nine centimeters—in other words, one
hundred-billionth of the distance between the earth and the sun. The height at the
rear, one hundred and seventy-six centimeters, divided by the width of the window,
fifty-six centimeters, is 3.14. The height at the front is nineteen decimeters, equal,
in other words, to the number of years of the Greek lunar cycle. The sum of the
heights of the two front corners and the two rear corners is one hundred and ninety
times two plus one hundred and seventy-six times two, which equals seven hundred
and thirty-two, the date of the victory at Poitiers. The thickness of the counter is
3.10 centimeters, and the width of the cornice of the window is 8.8 centimeters.
Replacing the numbers before the decimals by the corresponding letters of the
alphabet, we obtain C for ten and H for eight, or C10H8, which is the formula for
naphthalene.”
“Fantastic,” I said. “You did all these measurements?” “No,” Aglie said. “They were
done on another kiosk, by a certain Jean-Pierre Adam. But I would assume that all
lottery kiosks have more or less the same dimensions. With numbers you can do
anything you like. Suppose I have the sacred number 9 and I want to get the number
1314, date of the execution of Jacques de Molay—a date dear to anyone who, like me,
professes devotion to the Templar tradition of knighthood. What do I do? I multiply
nine by one hundred and forty-six, the fateful day of the destruction of Carthage.
How did I arrive at this? I divided thirteen hundred and fourteen by two, by three,
et cetera, until I found a satisfying date. I could also have divided thirteen hundred
and fourteen by 6.28, the double of 3.14, and I would have got two hundred and nine.
That is the year in which Attalus I, king of Pergamon, joined the anti-Macedonian
League. You see?”

From Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum", all rights reserved, copyrighted, so on and so forth.