7 wonders

[AEL89]

i'm sure you've already checked him out - but type Thomas Lang into youtube. He's a bit of a machine but its impressive.

 

[RemoWilliams]

What was so bad about the video again? Him being excited about playing music?

 

[P-E]

You have just described a stereotypical Canadian

... stereotypical maybe.

Though I don't even really consider myself Canadian for political reasons.
Oh, no offense to other Canadians though! I LUV YOU GUISE!

[irony]No, in fact I'm just a mean separatist and I wish you all burn in HELL.[/irony]

 

[Keregioz]

What was so bad about the video again? Him being excited about playing music?

+1000

I really don't see why so many of you are bashing this guy based on this video. He states at the beginning that he likes to play fast then goes ahead and plays a drum solo which some liked some not...what's the big deal.
Nowhere in this video I see him claiming that he is the best or fastest drummer in the world.

Finding the best drummer is pointless...no matter how good you believe a drummer is there will be people that will say he is crap and their favorite drummers are better. That, obviously, applies to everything, not just drummers.

 

[Erkan]

I'M REALLY PISSED OFF AT THE BASHING GOING ON IN THIS THREAD

Yeah, fuck you all. You seriously don't know how awesome Mike is at drums. If you think all he plays is single stroke shit "randomly" around the kit, well do some fucking research and find out you're full of shit. This man is probably the closest you can get to perfection on drums. He rapes the shit out of Thomas Haake at polyrhythmics, he rapes the shit out of most death metal drummers at blast beats, and he rapes the shit out of all those lazy ass drummers who claim they play with "soul" or "feel" because they just aren't as fast as Mike and therefore feel the need to throw in useless words such as those. Yeah, I'm sure Mike doesn't play with any feel or soul at all, right? Haha.

I hate when everytime a musician is at the more extreme side of things, people start hating them. Is it because you know you will never get there yourself? Well then fuck off and don't post in this thread. Seriously, what GOOD reason do you have to bash this guy if it isn't to make yourself feel better? I cannot for the love of god find one fucking good reason to bash this guy other than boosting your own pathetic fucking ego.

Wow, I just made a Gareth-type of post haha <3

 

[Metaltastic]

 

[Metaltastic]

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAha, oh man, this one is even better:

 

[slashvanyoung]

I think everyone who at least once had to edit an extreme metal drummer, preferably on amateur level, would outright KILL to have a guy like Mike enter his studio.

 

[Erkan]

Hahaha FU Marcus

 

[P-E]

I'M REALLY PISSED OFF AT THE BASHING GOING ON IN THIS THREAD

Yeah, fuck you all. You seriously don't know how awesome Mike is at drums. If you think all he plays is single stroke shit "randomly" around the kit, well do some fucking research and find out you're full of shit. This man is probably the closest you can get to perfection on drums. He rapes the shit out of Thomas Haake at polyrhythmics, he rapes the shit out of most death metal drummers at blast beats, and he rapes the shit out of all those lazy ass drummers who claim they play with "soul" or "feel" because they just aren't as fast as Mike and therefore feel the need to throw in useless words such as those. Yeah, I'm sure Mike doesn't play with any feel or soul at all, right? Haha.

I hate when everytime a musician is at the more extreme side of things, people start hating them. Is it because you know you will never get there yourself? Well then fuck off and don't post in this thread. Seriously, what GOOD reason do you have to bash this guy if it isn't to make yourself feel better? I cannot for the love of god find one fucking good reason to bash this guy other than boosting your own pathetic fucking ego.

Wow, I just made a Gareth-type of post haha <3

Really, really well said Erkan.

 

[Nuno Filipe]

I dont bash him because I know some of his work but that video was truly bored. There are a lot of better videos of him.

 

[_Brutalism_]

Hey Erkan calm down dude no need to insult, I'll give you reasons why that first video rubbed me the wrong way.

Any drummer who says he NEEDS to play fast is talking rubbish in my opinion. "A fulfillment of his calling?". Come on, lets be honest. Bottom line is, ANYONE can be able to hit a stick or a beater fast if they dedicated the time for it. Speed is NOT talent.

I see that this guy is good through his other videos, so yes I was wrong to judge him on that vid only. But I was presented a video and I gave my opinion.

Yes, playing fast is a good thing to know how to do, but it isn't as essential as this guy is making it out to be.

When I see this guy getting overblown hype and drummers like Sean Reinert who is barely known, something inside me says that this is uke:

I guess his intro sounded a bit too pretentious to me.

I will definitely give him another close listen, but I don't see how just saying I don't like a drummer and his approach makes a pathetic individual.

 

[Metal Overload]

Guys come on, is Mike Mangini, guy is awesome, that video is nothing, he did an awesome with Annihilator, hand by hand with the super tight playing of Jeff Waters, i know theres a lor of fater drummers or more brutal i don´t know, but the mangini is the mangini.

 

[ParsonsMatt]

Bottom line is, ANYONE can be able to hit a stick or a beater fast if they dedicated the time for it. Speed is NOT talent.

This statement is true. However, it is a bit too specific in my opinion. This is a more general, also true statement:

Bottom line is, ANYONE can be able to do anything if they dedicated the time for it. Talent is learned.

Really, if you think mixing, or playing with "soul", or anything is not simply the product of a great deal of practice and dedication... you are wrong.

 

[Erkan]

Hey Erkan calm down dude no need to insult, I'll give you reasons why that first video rubbed me the wrong way.

Any drummer who says he NEEDS to play fast is talking rubbish in my opinion. "A fulfillment of his calling?". Come on, lets be honest. Bottom line is, ANYONE can be able to hit a stick or a beater fast if they dedicated the time for it. Speed is NOT talent.

I see that this guy is good through his other videos, so yes I was wrong to judge him on that vid only. But I was presented a video and I gave my opinion.

Yes, playing fast is a good thing to know how to do, but it isn't as essential as this guy is making it out to be.

When I see this guy getting overblown hype and drummers like Sean Reinert who is barely known, something inside me says that this is uke:

I guess his intro sounded a bit too pretentious to me.

I will definitely give him another close listen, but I don't see how just saying I don't like a drummer and his approach makes a pathetic individual.

Yea my forum rage is over dude, I'm cool now

But seriously, to me it sounds like you have a grudge against people who set their minds on playing fast. How is playing fast in any way inferior to playing with "soul", "feel" or whatever else? I see it all as equal, and ANY reason to play drums is a good enough reason to play drums, doesn't matter which one. Mangini gets a kick out of playing fast and I really REALLY doubt it is because he wants to impress others. I recognize myself in him actually, I get a kick out of playing fast too (whenever my "juices" flow well enough to actually let me play fast but that's another story ), and I totally understand how this can quickly be devloped into an addiction. Playing fast is liberating, it's extreme, it's adrenaline pumping, it gets you all warm and sweaty. Some people like that more than playing a 110 BPM funk beat. I'm not bashing on funk music here, since I love that stuff myself, but I'm just saying that I wouldn't be so sure to judge this guy because of what he said in the beginning.

And yes, anyone who practises playing fast will be able to play fast but what was your point in saying that? That anyone who practises playing with groove/feel/soul won't be able to? You have to have it in your fucking genes or what? Hell, it took me about 7 years of drumming before I started realizing I had to put some groove and feel into my playing, but nevertheless, I did. It wasn't something I did from day one... it came with practise.



And to top it all off a little bit... I knew I had a Mike Mangini solo on my drive but couldn't find it on YouTube so I uploaded it just now. Watch this video, it's very old but still shows an awesome side of his playing in my opinion. He's got loads of dynamics, loads of speed, loads of technicality, polyrhythms... it's insane. And he's great fun to watch too, most drummers are too focused while Mike is enjoying himself like a little kid. The part from 01:00 and onward is AWESOME. Gief kick sample plx Mike!

 

[Erkan]

2:30 in that video.... his single stroke rolls man.... WHAT THE F***. Insane speed. And after that comes his one hand snare rolls, disgustingly fast.

 

[Fabbio]

This guy has three brains, minimum!

 

[Erkan]

This guy has three brains, minimum!

Yes I agree. I think he has developed his balls into brains by playing drums for so many years. He can now think and act with his BALLS. Goddamnit, I need to start practising my balls into brains too!

 

[nihilisticequilibrium]

This guy has no groove, if this speed, (which is nothing to write home about in the first place), is all he's got, then hes' an overblown asshole..

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[Fox Mulder]

Yea my forum rage is over dude, I'm cool now

But seriously, to me it sounds like you have a grudge against people who set their minds on playing fast. How is playing fast in any way inferior to playing with "soul", "feel" or whatever else? I see it all as equal, and ANY reason to play drums is a good enough reason to play drums, doesn't matter which one. Mangini gets a kick out of playing fast and I really REALLY doubt it is because he wants to impress others. I recognize myself in him actually, I get a kick out of playing fast too (whenever my "juices" flow well enough to actually let me play fast but that's another story ), and I totally understand how this can quickly be devloped into an addiction. Playing fast is liberating, it's extreme, it's adrenaline pumping, it gets you all warm and sweaty. Some people like that more than playing a 110 BPM funk beat. I'm not bashing on funk music here, since I love that stuff myself, but I'm just saying that I wouldn't be so sure to judge this guy because of what he said in the beginning.

And yes, anyone who practises playing fast will be able to play fast but what was your point in saying that? That anyone who practises playing with groove/feel/soul won't be able to? You have to have it in your fucking genes or what? Hell, it took me about 7 years of drumming before I started realizing I had to put some groove and feel into my playing, but nevertheless, I did. It wasn't something I did from day one... it came with practise.



And to top it all off a little bit... I knew I had a Mike Mangini solo on my drive but couldn't find it on YouTube so I uploaded it just now. Watch this video, it's very old but still shows an awesome side of his playing in my opinion. He's got loads of dynamics, loads of speed, loads of technicality, polyrhythms... it's insane. And he's great fun to watch too, most drummers are too focused while Mike is enjoying himself like a little kid. The part from 01:00 and onward is AWESOME. Gief kick sample plx Mike!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfxr_DQg6Q4

2:30 in that video.... his single stroke rolls man.... WHAT THE F***. Insane speed. And after that comes his one hand snare rolls, disgustingly fast.

This guy has three brains, minimum!

Really, really well said Erkan.

Hahaha FU Marcus

I'M REALLY PISSED OFF AT THE BASHING GOING ON IN THIS THREAD

Yeah, fuck you all. You seriously don't know how awesome Mike is at drums. If you think all he plays is single stroke shit "randomly" around the kit, well do some fucking research and find out you're full of shit. This man is probably the closest you can get to perfection on drums. He rapes the shit out of Thomas Haake at polyrhythmics, he rapes the shit out of most death metal drummers at blast beats, and he rapes the shit out of all those lazy ass drummers who claim they play with "soul" or "feel" because they just aren't as fast as Mike and therefore feel the need to throw in useless words such as those. Yeah, I'm sure Mike doesn't play with any feel or soul at all, right? Haha.

I hate when everytime a musician is at the more extreme side of things, people start hating them. Is it because you know you will never get there yourself? Well then fuck off and don't post in this thread. Seriously, what GOOD reason do you have to bash this guy if it isn't to make yourself feel better? I cannot for the love of god find one fucking good reason to bash this guy other than boosting your own pathetic fucking ego.

Wow, I just made a Gareth-type of post haha <3

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAha, oh man, this one is even better:

Yes I agree. I think he has developed his balls into brains by playing drums for so many years. He can now think and act with his BALLS. Goddamnit, I need to start practising my balls into brains too!

Bullzzz Eye!