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[CiG]

Me when I saw it:

i stand by 3 over ALIENS though, not a massively controversial opinion these days tbh

Among who? lol Aliens destroys Alien 3.

lol is that really my ALIEN rating? my RYM film ratings are out of date, i only keep my criticker updated properly. bumping that up, tis the best of the series, no disagreements there.

I actually reference your RYM at least once a week on certain things so reading this makes my brain hurt now.

 

[RadicalThrasher]

Among who? lol Aliens destroys Alien 3.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Me when I saw it:

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Among who? lol Aliens destroys Alien 3.

Lulz. I wonder which "days" these were? And which planet these days took place on.

But i do think Alien 3 is just as good as Aliens, if not better.

 

[CiG]

Eh, I like Alien 3 a lot, but the whole CGI xenomorph mess just tarnishes it so brutally.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i'm thinking more in critical circles than the general public i guess, it's a view that's becoming more accepted. alien3's had a pretty big critical reevaluation the last few years from what i've seen, lots of people hailing it as a misunderstood masterpiece and whatnot. i wouldn't go that far but it's the kind of ballsy, unhinged, totally personal and singular mess i love, and weirdly resonant as well. plus the way it completely shat on its predecessor rather than pandering like sequels usually do was pretty badass if you ask me. ALIENS is less flawed but it aims lower.

 

[RadicalThrasher]

Aliens has always been my favorite. Like all of the first 3 though

 

[CiG]

i'm thinking more in critical circles than the general public i guess, it's a view that's becoming more accepted. alien3's had a pretty big critical reevaluation the last few years from what i've seen, lots of people hailing it as a misunderstood masterpiece and whatnot. i wouldn't go that far but it's the kind of ballsy, unhinged, totally personal and singular mess i love, and weirdly resonant as well. plus the way it completely shat on its predecessor rather than pandering like sequels usually do was pretty badass if you ask me. ALIENS is less flawed but it aims lower.

Probably the same people who retroactively tried to re-brand Hayden Christensen's Star Wars acting in the prequel trilogy as subtly genius or some shit. Those more critical circles say some random shit, almost in some kind of contrarian attempt to seem intelligent by contrast to popular opinion.

I am definitely biased against people like that though so my entire characterization is probably just bitter bullshit.

That said, Alien 3 has my favourite setting and my favourite type of xenomorph (which looks amazing whenever it's the suit and not the shitty pseudo-CGI) so I'm not trying to hate on it or anything.

 

[no country for old wainds]

i agree a lot of that attention-seeking contrarianism goes on (i can't get on board with the whole 'vulgar auteurist' movement for example), but i don't think challenging the established view of a movie (positive or negative) is a bad thing at all if you're genuine about it. always good to bring new perspectives to the conversation.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Aliens was just a meathead action flick. Nothing special about it at all imo. Easily the worst of the series i'd say. But i blame it on the 80's.

 

[no country for old wainds]

there's definitely been a backlash against the meathead gung-ho action clichés, even from when it was first released i believe. the sentimental surrogate daughter stuff too (which alien3 brutally fucking speared by killing her off at the start lmao). i still think it's pretty great genre filmmaking though, can't match the tension and atmosphere of the first one but there's still plenty and it still sucks you into its world. some of the set pieces are just really well designed too. like i said, it aims a little low but it achieves what it set out to achieve.

 

[CiG]

but i don't think challenging the established view of a movie (positive or negative) is a bad thing at all if you're genuine about it. always good to bring new perspectives to the conversation.

100% with you there, sometimes I just have a hard time telling the difference between the contrarian stuff and the genuine attempts at bucking the status quo views of cinema. Not that it really matters in the end, it either convinces you or it doesn't.

Aliens was just a meathead action flick. Nothing special about it at all imo. Easily the worst of the series i'd say. But i blame it on the 80's.

there's definitely been a backlash against the meathead gung-ho action clichés, even from when it was first released i believe. the sentimental surrogate daughter stuff too (which alien3 brutally fucking speared by killing her off at the start lmao). i still think it's pretty great genre filmmaking though, can't match the tension and atmosphere of the first one but there's still plenty and it still sucks you into its world. some of the set pieces are just really well designed too. like i said, it aims a little low but it achieves what it set out to achieve.

I also think it's essentially a dead genre at this point. Rambo 4 and The Expendables tried to revive it but it fell flat, though I do like Rambo 4 quite a lot for it's unashamedly absolutely brutal aesthetic.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

tbh i consider Rambo(2008) to be more of a comedy.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

it aims a little low but it achieves what it set out to achieve.

yes, sadly. I cant imagine anyone that was truly a hardcore fan of Alien att to truly enjoy Aliens. Those two films were worlds apart imo. \

Oh and btw Predator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aliens

 

[CiG]

Some faggot has hacked Tech's account.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

why? Which part of my posts aren't true, babygirl?

 

[CiG]

I refuse to believe that you think any of these opinions genuinely. [puts fingers in ears and goes "la la la"]

Oh and btw Predator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aliens

Well okay, I'll give you this one, except the gap in quality is that large to me.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I refuse to believe that you think any of these opinions genuinely. [puts fingers in ears and goes "la la la"]

Lol. I will literally sell my blu ray copy of Rambo(2008) for $5 to anyone here. Any takers?

 

[CiG]

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... but it's the truf.

 

[CiG]

Is it your time of the month dude?