An Abstract Revolution in Metal?

Scourge of God

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Just some (fairly) disorganized thoughts on an interesting subject...

There's an obvious break between the first three generations of heavy metal (including most of the speed metal movement) and the death and black metal that followed. It seems to me that key factor separating the classic albums that emerged between say 1988-1995 and both the first couple of generations of heavy metal and most of what has appeared since is the level of abstraction the great classics achieved.

The great inherent weakness of rock based metal was always its insipid literalism. With bands like Venom, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Cannibal Corpse, Cradle of Filth etc., neither music nor concept leaves much to the imagination. Such bands fill their musical spaces with the utterly predictable and their conceptual spaces with lyrics that are painfully self-explanatory. Metaphor and other more oblique approaches to communication are lacking on every level.

In contrast, death metal bands like At the Gates, Incantation, Deicide, Dismember, Therion, Atheist and Demilich introduced music that worked almost as if according to dream logic, as if calculated to leave an ambivalent interpretive space. Among such bands, the juxtaposition of seemingly opposing elements (consonance and dissonance, blasting and doomy passages, violence and beauty) served to create an ambiguous sensibility that embodied both the dissolution of the modern age and the haunting possibility of rebirth.

In black metal, this tendency was even more highly developed, with many bands projecting their music almost entirely into intellectual spaces defined by ideal rather than by fidelity to the current historical moment. Some bands did so through an embrace of the heroic past (Bathory, Burzum, Graveland and Enslaved), while others set their music in worlds that exist only in the mind (Immortal and Summoning).
 
^^ Yeah I agree with your basic point, even if the flowery language makes little sense at times ('the haunting possibility of rebirth'???). It's the reason I prefer contemporary metal to the first wave. There's clearly been a shift from linear songwriting based on rock and pop structures to structures more traditionally associated with jazz and classical, as well as other more unique progressions.
 
This is something i've noticed subconsciously for a while, but thanks for putting the distinction into words. It's the reason I still find those abstract releases interesting while Metallica and Iron Maiden are only good for a enlightened romp every few weeks. When the music can only mean one thing, the mind has no room to explore and loses interest.
 
This is something i've noticed subconsciously for a while, but thanks for putting the distinction into words. It's the reason I still find those abstract releases interesting while Metallica and Iron Maiden are only good for a enlightened romp every few weeks. When the music can only mean one thing, the mind has no room to explore and loses interest.

Lose interest in sex, drugs and rock & roll?

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:hypno:

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I agree but when it comes down to analyzing individual bands, I think this topic is rather subjective in many ways, like in how you interpret a band's material for example. I think it's true to a certain extent but I still feel its the listener who will decide, seeing as how it will vary from person to person.

And I've said this many times before in regard to black metal, I feel the whole abstract element to black metal, wether you want to call it the 'essence' of it or whatever is now at the point where it is almost an aesthetic. You've got nearly every band trying to achieve this or more evidently, believing they are doing so, so I believe it's a somewhat of an overrun theme that doesn't hold as much conviction as it once did.
 
There opinions, you fucking twat, not fact. Facts require evidence. Opinions require being able to breath.



Douchebag.

Never said they were. Still pointless to post something an opinion if you're not going to support it with anything.

And next time, try not to embarrass yourself by making grammatical and spelling errors AND calling someone else a 'douchebag'.
 
Actually it was a perfect reply to an absolutely clueless and random post like the first one.

Whether Cradle of Filth is or is not metal, or whether COF is or is not a good band, has absolutely nothing to do with the argument that was put forward in the original post. This is like arguing about who's turn it is to shout a beer while the pub is burning around you.
 
Too broadly generalized.

In what sense? The time period in question saw the emergence of classical influences in composition, ambient influences in percussion, an increasing emphasis on tremolo riffing and the longer phrases this implies, a decreasing emphasis on clear resolutions in rhythm and harmony, and increasingly sophisticated, oblique and latinate language in lyrical content, all elements leading inexorably to a more abstract sensibility. This was a movement without precedent in metal, nor has a comparable revolution taken place since.