Metal instrumentation

anonymouswierdo said:
I think they've done some without drums.

Yeh, i dont think they use drums. Ive got the one where they play metallica and Slayer - its alright the forst couple of times, but after that it kinda gets boring
 
Apocalyptica - Current line-up:

Eicca Toppinen - cello
Perttu Kivilaakso - cello
Paavo Lotjonen - cello

Antero Manninen - cello (session)
Mikko Siren - drums (session)
Dave Lombardo (Slayer (US), Fantômas, Grip Inc., ex-Testament, ex-Voodoocult) - drums (session)
 
Someone covered reign in blood on strings, and it is suppossed to own apoplyptica, although I can't say until I've heard it. As for metal, I know keyboards can replace guitars, but it doesn't sound as real. John zorn did some crazy heavy metal on saxophone, and it was fine sounding, from an acoustic standpoint. Some songs are very iffy though. I think King Crimson on construction of light have a heavy part with only guitars, but they are like playing accents on sixteenth and whatever notes so they sort of create rhythem through an insane whirr of guitars. I imagine that there is completly electronic metal out there, somewhere. Flutes and clarinets fit in black metal okay.
 
The concept of music 'genres' is something we create. I'd say if a band played distorted, metal structured music, toured with metal bands, and acted metal, we'd call them metal.
 
To add to the experimentation question, what about horn sections (not unlike blues or ska bands) in metal? Or Latin-style percussion (bongos, congas, steel drums, etc.)? Are there any instruments that, should they be used in a metal song, would kill the "metalness" of the song?
 
The_Harmathroditic_Ferret said:
I personally feel a metal band should have this line up.

Guitarist
Drums
Bassist/vocalist

All these band that have these "rhythm guitarists" I find a waste. The power metal bands ust them effectively by using seperate riffs, dueling solo's, seperate arpeggios, but for most of metal, bands just have their rhythm guitarist play all the roots of the lead. When you have a guitarist doing that, it totally drowns out the bass, and you might as well not even have a bassist then.

I think the lineup should always be that three, and the only genre of metal that needs a rhythm guitarist is power metal, and avant garde bands.
wow you're absolutely fucking completely clueless to the max
 
DeathsSweetEmbrace said:
To add to the experimentation question, what about horn sections (not unlike blues or ska bands) in metal? Or Latin-style percussion (bongos, congas, steel drums, etc.)? Are there any instruments that, should they be used in a metal song, would kill the "metalness" of the song?

Seriously, listen to Karaboudjan already. There's some weird saxophones and a killer steeldrum part (although it's done with synths). Brass parts in Metal can also be found in Pan-Thy-Monium (Karaboudjan's Predecessor), Devin Townsend's Song "Bad Devil" (Killer Trombone Parts in there) and my own band, Kohlrabihaus :D
 
I personally like a guitar doing rythmn so another guitar can add over it with texture,patterns,etc... & also harmonizing.

When bands have two guitarists doing the samething always that's when two guitars are pointless.
 
Hahah, having this thread open about the same time as the thread about Burzum is kind of funny to me because it makes me think about when Varg said he'll never play Metal again, because guitars are "for black people". Maybe it's secretly Varg who started this thread to get ideas on how to create Metal without Metal instruments. Hmmmm..
 
Actually he said he wanted nothing to do with metal at all anymore because it has roots in 'my pals music'. But that was in 1998 or so.