Another Fucking Religion Thread

[ohiogrinder]

It's fucking bullshit.

actually bluewizard is right. Satanists don't believe in a physical Satan, but rather worship themselves. its a direct opposition to Christian values.

 

[Alter]

actually bluewizard is right. Satanists don't believe in a physical Satan, but rather worship themselves. its a direct opposition to Christian values.

Still its bullshit. It may be an opposition to Christian values but creates a legion of self-obsessed individuals.

 

[Matt]

actually bluewizard is right. Satanists don't believe in a physical Satan, but rather worship themselves. its a direct opposition to Christian values.

Well that would be the LaVayan form I believe. Orthodox Satanists directly Worship Him.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's right.

 

[ohiogrinder]

Still its bullshit. It may be an opposition to Christian values but creates a legion of self-obsessed individuals.

and thats bad because?

 

[Matt]

Because that would make people more like you :zombie:

 

[ohiogrinder]

Because that would make people more like you :zombie:

eh, not really a bad thing. nice try, though.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Still its bullshit. It may be an opposition to Christian values but creates a legion of self-obsessed individuals.

Yeah, but the christians are self obsessed to. They only care about other people because they are promised heaven if they do.

 

[BlackMetalWhiteGuy]

I read a story for my economics class about this woman who decided to give up her real life for a year and only perform "unskilled labour," such as waitressing, etc., and mentioned that her worst customers were the Christians who came in to eat after mass, because they were rude, self centered, and never tipped.

 

[cookiecutter]

I think all this really says about Christians is that they are no better than anyone else, despite their supposed moral high ground

 

[Alter]

I think all this really says about Christians is that they are no better than anyone else, despite their supposed moral high ground

...or that everyone holds their religion higher than everyone esle and offers the same counter point back at each other.

 

[Matt]

Yeah, but the christians are self obsessed to. They only care about other people because they are promised heaven if they do.

Uh no? Don't partake in things you know nothing about

 

[Alter]

Yeah, but the christians are self obsessed to. They only care about other people because they are promised heaven if they do.

So anyone not Christian is not self obsessed?

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

No, we're all self obsessed. It's impossible for humanity to not be self obsessed. A seemingly selfless act is only done for the benefit of the doer, whether it be to make them feel good about themselves, make them seem morally superior, give way to an unspoken indebtment or apeal to an illusionary sense of honour, it's all done for self gratification.

 

[ohiogrinder]

No, we're all self obsessed. It's impossible for humanity to not be self obsessed. A seemingly selfless act is only done for the benefit of the doer, whether it be to make them feel good about themselves, make them seem morally superior, give way to an unspoken indebtment or apeal to an illusionary sense of honour, it's all done for self gratification.

I agree with this logic.

 

[Matt]

No, we're all self obsessed. It's impossible for humanity to not be self obsessed. A seemingly selfless act is only done for the benefit of the doer, whether it be to make them feel good about themselves, make them seem morally superior, give way to an unspoken indebtment or apeal to an illusionary sense of honour, it's all done for self gratification.

WTF? That's not true at all.

By your logic, I drove a kid home today so I would feel good about myself, not because he needed a ride and has a lot of problems and I feel bad for him.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

So anyone not Christian is not self obsessed?

Either/or fallacy alert.

Mathias, do you know anything about the subconscious? Denial is another part of it.

 

[Matt]

Mathias, do you know anything about the subconscious? Denial is another part of it.

Yes, I know about the subconscious. It just seems improbable to me that I (or anyone) do nice things solely for the satisfaction of doing them.

 

[cookiecutter]

...or that everyone holds their religion higher than everyone esle and offers the same counter point back at each other.

And what does this tell you about the veracity of religion?

Yes, I know about the subconscious. It just seems improbable to me that I (or anyone) do nice things solely for the satisfaction of doing them.

I don't really see a problem with helping someone so you feel good. The net result is positive for both parties

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

I don't really see a problem with helping someone so you feel good. The net result is positive for both parties

I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's still done for self satisfaction.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

*primarily self-satisfaction

That is what Nietzsche would claim, and he'd also claim it's destructive. I don't really think it's true for the most part though.