Subject pretty much says it all... Was thinking about getting one of these down the road. People seem to LOVE them for live use but I haven't heard any opinions on how they fair under a mic...
Anyone ever recorded a Vader cabinet?
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MetalWorks
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I have.
They're ok.
I personally have a friend who went from Randall cabs, to Krank Cabs, to Mesa Cabs, To Krank Cabs again, to Vader Cabs, then back to the latest Randall Cabs.
The Krank Cabs were OK. The Mesa Recto Cab was hands down the best sounding. The Vader Cabs just looked cool but IMO sounded thin. Now the Randall Cabs are decent.
I would pay $500-$600 for a used Mesa Recto Cab on Craigslist before I bought a $689 Vader cab.
I think they are just decent cabs that look like a Death Metal Band would play them.
They're ok.
I personally have a friend who went from Randall cabs, to Krank Cabs, to Mesa Cabs, To Krank Cabs again, to Vader Cabs, then back to the latest Randall Cabs.
The Krank Cabs were OK. The Mesa Recto Cab was hands down the best sounding. The Vader Cabs just looked cool but IMO sounded thin. Now the Randall Cabs are decent.
I would pay $500-$600 for a used Mesa Recto Cab on Craigslist before I bought a $689 Vader cab.
I think they are just decent cabs that look like a Death Metal Band would play them.
Exactly what I would think - there's so many other great cab companies out there, and between the fact that pretty much all of Vader's endorsees have illegible band logos (and therefore probably really unremarkable tone) and that their bragging right is power handling (and not sound quality)...eh, never was too interested.
ParsonsMatt
Alas, Tyranny
It is actually quite funny that opinions about certain products are so different on different discussion boards.
On sevenstring.org Orange and Vader cabs are these universally awesome cabs, that are beyond any critisism, and if you dare say anything bad about them, you are labeled a n00b or whatever. And there, Mesa cabs are often said to be boomy and awfull.
I was faced with an Orange inquisition when I bought a Mesa Rectifier cab to replace my Orange PPC412 cab. For me(!), the Mesa cab is the perfect cab. Smooth, tons of low end and very neutral sounding, where the Orange cab has a very dominant midrange. Not a bad sounding cab, not at all, but I think the Mesa cab is way better sounding. I still have the Orange cab, since it sounds very nice when playing certain things.
I have never even tried a Vader cab, so I don't know how they sound like, but it seems there's a lot of hype around them, and a lot of people who have never even heard or tried one of them are praising them. But like I said, I have no personal experience.
On sevenstring.org Orange and Vader cabs are these universally awesome cabs, that are beyond any critisism, and if you dare say anything bad about them, you are labeled a n00b or whatever. And there, Mesa cabs are often said to be boomy and awfull.
I was faced with an Orange inquisition when I bought a Mesa Rectifier cab to replace my Orange PPC412 cab. For me(!), the Mesa cab is the perfect cab. Smooth, tons of low end and very neutral sounding, where the Orange cab has a very dominant midrange. Not a bad sounding cab, not at all, but I think the Mesa cab is way better sounding. I still have the Orange cab, since it sounds very nice when playing certain things.
I have never even tried a Vader cab, so I don't know how they sound like, but it seems there's a lot of hype around them, and a lot of people who have never even heard or tried one of them are praising them. But like I said, I have no personal experience.
The reason I'm asking is my buddy Mike Gilbert from Severed Savior uses them religiously, and his rig is an Engl E570 preamp, Engl E850 power amp, Fractal Audio Axe-FX with Evidence Audio and Mogami cables. Dude is an absolute tone nut and he much prefers the Vader cabinets to both his Engl XXL cab and the Mesa Recto cab he used to have...
Josh Burgess
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Yeah, I've talked with him about it too. He said that the engl cab with v30's records better, but now uses the axe-fx for direct recording, and that he likes the vader cab's sound in person live (unmiced) better than the engl.
Although for me, it's all about what it sounds mic'd.... because I mean you'd have to mic up for most shows anyways...
Josh Burgess
Member
I had the Orange 4x12 and a Bogner 4x12 at the same time. I sold the Orange... it was more loose and REALLY dark.... and middy like you said. too dark for my tastes. the bogner and mesa are more similar than the orange... I do know of someone who swapped two of the v30's in an orange cab out for t75's like the bogner ubercab and said it sounded awesome, although I imagine it'd still sound too dark for my tastes
Josh Burgess
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Looks like I'll stick with my Mesa cab for now!Engl cab in July I think!
What makes you think you'd like he Engl cab any more than the Mesa? I honestly think I'd probably like the Mesa better...
