Apparent band/album preferences of UM members vs. common metalheads

[EternalMetal]

My post makes more sense if you read it as a whole.

Basically...I think people here are generally more interested in actually discussing the music they listen to and in the process, expanding their taste in music.

I don't see this as much on other forums, certainly not without an abundance of trolling and immaturity. Sure there's some here but it's not completely out of control. I don't think there's nearly as many people here trying to prove something.

Ok, I think I understand now, thanks for clarifying. I thought you were saying that the taste in music that UM members have somehow reflected being more open-minded and mature

Oh yea, Incantation-worship bands. Just had a recent Incantation binge after not listening to them for quite a while, and I realized how superior they were to bands like Father Befouled, Vasaeleth, and Impetuous Ritual. Good stuff that is worth hearing, but for the most part done better already.

 

[SkeletonWitch]

Arghoslent is overly fellated around these parts, and Savatage never existed.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

I like good music and people that also like good music like similar music.

 

[Bitencourt29]

- Lock Up is amazing, also ignored here

Yeah, love their stuff. I've never seen them mentioned here indeed.

Yea, I don't get the whole deal with having to like every Incantation-clone band that comes out. Father Befouled is a great example of a band that received far too much praise from the forum.

Father Befouled's last album sounds damn great. I'm a big fan of Incantation style DM, have to admit that. I've been listening a lot to Decrepitaph, another good example.

Arghoslent is overly fellated around these parts, and Savatage never existed.

I enjoy all of Arghoslent's material, can't wait for something new.

The bands I see getting bashed more often around here are probably Opeth, Anthrax, Nile, Dream Theater and Nevermore.

Some great bands I don't see getting the love they deserve on here imo:

- Maniac Butcher
- Monstrosity
- Absu
- Dismember
- Exodus
- Master
- Edge of Sanity
- Bal-Sagoth
- Sinister
- Tankard

 

[Zephyrus]

Master and Absu are well praised here and Sinister certainly respected.

 

[mutantllama]

Bonded by Blood well praised here.

 

[skeptik]

The words "clone" and "worship" need to be expulsed from the general musical vernacular because they're very rarely employed properly or without heavy hyperbole.

Onder, how exactly am I closedminded? It's odd because Grant and I were discussing that a couple days ago as well.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

The words "clone" and "worship" need to be expulsed from the general musical vernacular because they're very rarely employed properly or without heavy hyperbole.

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Don't get butthurt about it, faggot.

 

[damnromulans]

What "common metalheads" are being referenced? I was always under the impression that underground metal, like Klingon linguists or furries, is a subculture comprised of individuals so widely and sparsely distributed that without the Internet as a social networking/discussion tool it would all but perish. There are a lot of people in the world who really love metal, but not enough to warrant its own social scene in many places. I feel like that holds especially true for black/folk; to me it seems like death/thrash/heavy/prog have a more noticeable/mainstream IRL presence. Of course I grew up in the U.S. suburbs and now live in a rice paddy, so I have never really had access to a thriving "scene."

 

[skeptik]

Don't get butthurt about it, faggot.

This is a reasonable reaction from an intelligent person.

 

[Kara-Shehr]

- Monstrosity
- Exodus

Agreed, I would also like to mention..

Setherial
Napalm Death
Rhapsody
Nifelheim
Marduk
Edguy
Destruction
Dark Fortress

It's not so much that I think that they aren't given enough credit by this board but I often feel that they aren't discussed very often.

 

[Cythraul]

I was always under the impression that underground metal, like Klingon linguists or furries, is a subculture comprised of individuals so widely and sparsely distributed that without the Internet as a social networking/discussion tool it would all but perish.

That is a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[damnromulans]

That is a ridiculous thing to say.

Yeah I suck at writing sentences - I didn't mean the music or the bands themselves at all. I was talking about the fans and enthusiasts. And yes I realize that preceding the Internet there were mailing groups and mixtape exchanges and word of mouth, but IMO the Internet has made it much more possible to find other people who like the same things you like.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

This is a reasonable reaction from an intelligent person.

It's exactly what your statement deserved. Try harder, brah.

 

[skeptik]

The fact that terms that describe a direct influence from one band to another are excessively overused to the point that words like "clone" and "worship" have come to mean nothing more than "takes influence from" is not something that needs to be extrapolated due to the fact that it's so obvious. Insane is a Slayer "Show No Mercy" worship band. Cast Iron is a Running Wild worship band. Impetuous Ritual is far from an Incantation clone. The overuse of these terms skews the perception of the reality of the situation. Why you choose to respond like an emotionally damaged prick I don't really care enough to guess at.

 

[Vossyrus]

I think even the whole "influenced by" thing is generally exaggerated or ill-informed. It's one thing if the band actually confirms that they've been influenced by a particular band, but people think just because two bands have something in common stylistically that it must mean one band must have influenced the other.

 

[EternalMetal]

'Clone' is more derogatory and is used to describe bands that attempt to emulate a band and fail. 'Worship' is a bit more patronizing and may even be used when a band revisited a style of music you really enjoy (whereas ive never seen anyone use the term 'clone' in this way). It's also a lazy way of saying that a band isnt essential because the musical approach a band took isnt original and has been done better already. Otherwise I dont care whether you like the term or not.

 

[Mountains_of_Mars]

Here's my two cent. The people that I hang out with irl that listen to metal are actually members here (Master_Yoda77 and Addo_of_Nex) So I guess my unique perspective on this subject is that our views are somewhat similar to the views on here. Some examples that were previously mentioned in this thread, In our little social circle, Finnish Death Metal is very highly praised, same thing with some USPM (including the previously mentioned Manilla Road) and traditional doom. The only noticeable difference is that we happen to praise certain bands that get zero attention on this board, the most notable is Order From Chaos.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Manilla Road is fellated all over the internet. Nothing unique to this forum.

 

[Mort Divine]

the most notable is Order From Chaos.

fucking love them

Manilla Road is fellated all over the internet. Nothing unique to this forum.

This is actually true, most every metal site I go to loves them.